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Despite all the negative about wikipedia, it’s still sort of part of “old internet” that I don’t want to die. Even wikia, which was spun at first as “slightly

Despite all the negative about wikipedia, it’s still sort of part of “old internet” that I don’t want to die. Even wikia, which was spun at first as “slightly more commercial wikipedia”, later became Fandom, which is something so horrible that I don’t want to look at Look at WikiTravel which is more commercial WikiVoyage… they immediately went and stuffed it with ads and trackers. And I mean wikimedia is fine NOW, but economy is going down, I will be happy if it has a certain rundown. I am not entirely happy about all decisions that they do, but they’re still not pushing me any tracker. I am fine with closing some pop up.

frozencell 4y ago
> wikipedia, it’s still sort of part of “old internet” what sort of new internet are you living in?
- pwinnski 4y ago
  The ad-filled internet being pushed by Google and crew, overtaking everything, it sounds like.
paulnpace 4y ago
I edited an article citing a published source. My edit was reversed by a troll with some axe to grind on the article. I attempted to discuss in the talk page and the troll basically said "you are wrong and the source is wrong", but cited no source supporting the claim, no policy stating there was something wrong with the specific source, and I cited policies supporting my use of the source. Another editor showed up and agreed with me, and undid the troll's reversal, which the troll then restored the article to its state prior to my edit. I undid the troll's restoration. Shortly thereafter I received a notice that I had been reported for some category of malicious editing. The troll reported me and the other editor for being sock-puppet accounts, and within 20 minutes my account and the other editor's accounts were deleted, my IP address banned from editing, and the edits to the article were deleted from record. I received a notice that I can appeal the decision by sending an email to whatever the final governing board for all of Wikipedia is, which is a publicly published email address. I assumed this a "talk to the hand" step that results in nothing but wasting my time, since there is no way for me to disprove the sock-puppet claim (other than to state the fact that it is a lie) and all the evidence of the changes were vaporized. (I did attempt to post a rebuttal to the claims, but when I clicked the post button, my account had already been deleted so the post was never posted.) I had been editor of Wikipedia since shortly after they migrated to the new format (e.g., MediaWiki). Wikipedia is not anything like what it originally started as.

frozencell 4y ago

> wikipedia, it’s still sort of part of “old internet” what sort of new internet are you living in?

pwinnski 4y ago
The ad-filled internet being pushed by Google and crew, overtaking everything, it sounds like.

paulnpace 4y ago

I edited an article citing a published source. My edit was reversed by a troll with some axe to grind on the article. I attempted to discuss in the talk page and the troll basically said "you are wrong and the source is wrong", but cited no source supporting the claim, no policy stating there was something wrong with the specific source, and I cited policies supporting my use of the source. Another editor showed up and agreed with me, and undid the troll's reversal, which the troll then restored the article to its state prior to my edit. I undid the troll's restoration. Shortly thereafter I received a notice that I had been reported for some category of malicious editing. The troll reported me and the other editor for being sock-puppet accounts, and within 20 minutes my account and the other editor's accounts were deleted, my IP address banned from editing, and the edits to the article were deleted from record. I received a notice that I can appeal the decision by sending an email to whatever the final governing board for all of Wikipedia is, which is a publicly published email address. I assumed this a "talk to the hand" step that results in nothing but wasting my time, since there is no way for me to disprove the sock-puppet claim (other than to state the fact that it is a lie) and all the evidence of the changes were vaporized. (I did attempt to post a rebuttal to the claims, but when I clicked the post button, my account had already been deleted so the post was never posted.) I had been editor of Wikipedia since shortly after they migrated to the new format (e.g., MediaWiki). Wikipedia is not anything like what it originally started as.