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Twitter lawsuit threatenedover alleged Hezbollah aid

27 points by meadhikari 15y ago

safeaim 15y ago
Given the fact that even the education minister in Israel is working actively against that human rights are being taught at school, there's no wonder that country doesn't like free speech. [1] [1] http://972mag.com/ministry-of-education-officially-against-human-rights/31853 http://972mag.com/ministry-of-education-officially-against-h...
- berntb 15y ago
  A ministry of education in a country complains when a school sends pupils on a political march for subject X. An activist magazine writes that the education minister (who might not have been aware of the complaint) is against X. And you post that as reason to smear the whole country for not "liking" free speech, not even the government? Please keep hate propaganda and such garbage off HN.
  - safeaim 15y ago
    My apologizes, the hyperbole was strong in that one. I do however stand by that the human rights status in that country is sketchy at best.
gdilla 15y ago
Does he know that some Hezbollah members use gmail too? And have iPhones!
hackada 15y ago
Then they'll also need to block the twitter accounts of the Israeli government & co. as many of the acts carried out by the Israeli army in Gaza and other territories against civilians are as worthy or more of being considered terrorism
- berntb 15y ago
  Sigh... the democratic world that didn't terror stamp Israel but Hezbollah seems to disagree. (You generally won't like the reaction from a country if you put a large part of your economic infrastructure into shooting rocket artillery at the country's cities.) Afaik, all democracies with terror problems (Germany, USA, Israel, Spain, Italy, etc) threw out the law book. The idea with terror is to scare the general population -- and governments which want to win the next election gets really motivated.
  - hackada 15y ago
    Sigh... the democratic world that didn't terror stamp Israel but Hezbollah seems to disagree. Sigh... The democratic world of which you speak is the same one that considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist for opposing Apartheid I'm no saying here that I support the killing of any civilians, but let's not be hypocrites here, Palestinian civilians are as civilians as Israeli ones, and the conflict is not as easily divided into good ones vs bad ones as some would like.
    - berntb 15y ago
      First, ANC got lots of support from democracies. So your "point" is wrong. Second, [Edit: even if your "point" had been correct] according to your logic Britain can never complain about other countries' human rights records since they made Turing a criminal for being homosexual? Sigh, you write bad logic in two comments from a year+ old account with just a few comments. I'll stop feeding you now. Edit: If you want to be taken seriously, comment on my arguments in the first comment. But I guess you prefer doing wild accusations about all democracies being wrong and some country being terrorist instead.
      - hackada 15y ago
        In my opinion is your logic that is wrong or you don't understand what I'm talking about at all (or don't want to understand). Countries around the world use the term terrorism to suit their interests. South African government branded opponents of Apartheid terrorists (with the support of the US by the way) and the Israeli government does the same with anybody that opposes injustices committed against palestinians. And lastly lots of democracies and NGOs around the Western "democratic" world consider Israel's acts against palestinian population to be plain violations of human rights. (I comment whenever I think I have something interesting to say, if it happens to be just a few times in a year, so it be... don't see anything wrong with that)
cavilling_elite 15y ago
This illogical thinking is blowing my mind. Shouldn't MS be sued because the computers Bin Laden used had Windows installed? Or perhaps Dell for selling computers. The US government for funding the invention of the internet? Cell phone providers for creating communication links? Nokia for giving Iran the software to block peaceful protests? The hypocrisy is killing me.

27 points by meadhikari 15y ago

Given the fact that even the education minister in Israel is working actively against that human rights are being taught at school, there's no wonder that country doesn't like free speech. [1] [1] http://972mag.com/ministry-of-education-officially-against-human-rights/31853 http://972mag.com/ministry-of-education-officially-against-h...

berntb 15y ago
A ministry of education in a country complains when a school sends pupils on a political march for subject X. An activist magazine writes that the education minister (who might not have been aware of the complaint) is against X. And you post that as reason to smear the whole country for not "liking" free speech, not even the government? Please keep hate propaganda and such garbage off HN.
- safeaim 15y ago
  My apologizes, the hyperbole was strong in that one. I do however stand by that the human rights status in that country is sketchy at best.

gdilla 15y ago

Does he know that some Hezbollah members use gmail too? And have iPhones!

hackada 15y ago

Then they'll also need to block the twitter accounts of the Israeli government & co. as many of the acts carried out by the Israeli army in Gaza and other territories against civilians are as worthy or more of being considered terrorism

berntb 15y ago
Sigh... the democratic world that didn't terror stamp Israel but Hezbollah seems to disagree. (You generally won't like the reaction from a country if you put a large part of your economic infrastructure into shooting rocket artillery at the country's cities.) Afaik, all democracies with terror problems (Germany, USA, Israel, Spain, Italy, etc) threw out the law book. The idea with terror is to scare the general population -- and governments which want to win the next election gets really motivated.
- hackada 15y ago
  Sigh... the democratic world that didn't terror stamp Israel but Hezbollah seems to disagree. Sigh... The democratic world of which you speak is the same one that considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist for opposing Apartheid I'm no saying here that I support the killing of any civilians, but let's not be hypocrites here, Palestinian civilians are as civilians as Israeli ones, and the conflict is not as easily divided into good ones vs bad ones as some would like.
  - berntb 15y ago
    First, ANC got lots of support from democracies. So your "point" is wrong. Second, [Edit: even if your "point" had been correct] according to your logic Britain can never complain about other countries' human rights records since they made Turing a criminal for being homosexual? Sigh, you write bad logic in two comments from a year+ old account with just a few comments. I'll stop feeding you now. Edit: If you want to be taken seriously, comment on my arguments in the first comment. But I guess you prefer doing wild accusations about all democracies being wrong and some country being terrorist instead.
    - hackada 15y ago
      In my opinion is your logic that is wrong or you don't understand what I'm talking about at all (or don't want to understand). Countries around the world use the term terrorism to suit their interests. South African government branded opponents of Apartheid terrorists (with the support of the US by the way) and the Israeli government does the same with anybody that opposes injustices committed against palestinians. And lastly lots of democracies and NGOs around the Western "democratic" world consider Israel's acts against palestinian population to be plain violations of human rights. (I comment whenever I think I have something interesting to say, if it happens to be just a few times in a year, so it be... don't see anything wrong with that)

cavilling_elite 15y ago

This illogical thinking is blowing my mind. Shouldn't MS be sued because the computers Bin Laden used had Windows installed? Or perhaps Dell for selling computers. The US government for funding the invention of the internet? Cell phone providers for creating communication links? Nokia for giving Iran the software to block peaceful protests? The hypocrisy is killing me.