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> You can't permanently silence/exclude random people's opinions at social events or a family dinner with the touch of a button. thats my point. we don't exi

• dmix 4y ago
  Cool... niche forums and social groups are a good thing but the world is increasingly lived on the internet and that has a big ripple effect even in real life. The people who are raised on hypermodded Subreddits (and a hypothetical world where super constrained Mastadon servers replace Twitter/FB/<=2012 internet forums and comment threads) are not being taught to tolerate other opinions in their family, workplace, at universities, and high schools. And today much more broadly to newspaper columnists, blog platforms, Patreon accounts, Paypal/Mastercard merchant accounts etc, etc. This isn't merely about which communities you opt-in and choose to follow. The market options to opt-in to are continually constrained and limited. You see these same pressures exponentially being applied to everything, not just niche opt-in communities. It's a new culture of intolerance for the greater good. Guilt by association and zero nuance outrage campaigns. Our culture is developing a zero tolerance policy to dissent and anything outside the Overton window. The only people I see how have no problem with this are people who: A) have boring non controversial opinions or simply don't care B) their ideologies happen to fit squarely in the overton window C) generally don't participate in public discourse and are unaware of recent cultural developments... Or are simply naive they can't see the danger in slippery slopes where increasingly more moderate ideas get treated like Gaellio and blasphemy against God, but the mainstream safe culture is the new religion. The "push a button to silence dissent" thing is what is expanding everywhere. Family dinners and IRL parties are one of the few bastions of tolerance but even that won't last long if the current culture continues.
  • toofy 4y ago
    > It's a new culture of intolerance... from what i see, we (the US) have more tolerance than we've ever had. there is of course a very loud tiny number of people crying about that exact tolerance and doing their best to destroy tolerance, but they've always been here. you're gonna feel the way you feel, but i personally think much of this is similar to the "kids these days don't know good music. its not rock like zeppelin!" type nonsense. the kids are alright. kids spending their freetime with like minded friends online is not terrifying, its not nefarious, its not spooky. i just listened to a podcast that was discussing the early days of dungeons and dragons. apparently adults used to spaz out that kids were playing dnd. it sent the parents into a weird type of satanic panic--they were convinced that if kids spent so much of their freetime playing dnd with their friends it was going to turn them into murderers or something. some of the recordings of the parents were wild. they were fully convinced this activity would turn little johnny into a satanic flying demon or something. it was just kids spending their freetime time with like minded friends (a dnd bubble if you will). > The "push a button to silence dissent" thing is what is expanding everywhere. this is no different from someone turning and walking away from the racist nutball screeching on a street corner. its the literal same outcome. there is nothing wrong with being able to walk away from a quack screaming at you on the street, just as there is nothing wrong with pushing a button and blocking the racist nutball screeching at you online. it doesn't even have to be a screeching nutball on a street corner. there are a million reasons why we may just not like another person. when we don't like someone, we just turn and walk away and go find our friends. this is normal. this is totally normal. we'll be ok.