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I wonder what those in pretrial detention in Rikers do without internet, there only because they don’t have resources to bond out.

jrockway 4y ago
Your solution to needless suffering is to add more needless suffering?
- deleted 4y ago
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- vkou 4y ago
  If we only permitted accused criminals to have public defendants, instead of being able to hire expensive lawyers, I expect that improving the public defense system would magically become a priority for everyone, or at least, for half of the legal profession. If we got rid of TSA-precheck, I would expect some of the bullshit that regular travelers have to go through would be eliminated. It's pretty easy for people with power and influence to not give a shit about what the rest of us have to deal with, when they never need to experience it.
  - andsoitis 4y ago
    > If we got rid of TSA-precheck, I would expect some of the bullshit that regular travelers have to go through would be eliminated. It's pretty easy for people with power and influence to not give a shit about what the rest of us have to deal with, when they never need to experience it. I must admit: if TSA pre-check is an example of what people with power & influence get away with, then I can simply not be convinced of your case.
  - joejerryronnie 4y ago
    As a TSA-precheck member, I’ve never felt like part of the ruling class until today. Bow before me and tremble!
- dmkolobov 4y ago
  Probably more like equity before the law.
- jrjrmlrlrlrr 4y ago
  He caused $8 billion in suffering and you're concerned he can't use the internet?
  - whyenot 4y ago
    That has not been proven. He hasn’t had a trial yet. Maybe you are unfamiliar with the US justice system, but at least in principle the idea is to only punish after someone has been found guilty.
    - user_named 4y ago
      No, it's proven and it's a fact. Legal liability within the US and to what extent, for what, hasn't been proven.

jrockway 4y ago

Your solution to needless suffering is to add more needless suffering?

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vkou 4y ago
If we only permitted accused criminals to have public defendants, instead of being able to hire expensive lawyers, I expect that improving the public defense system would magically become a priority for everyone, or at least, for half of the legal profession. If we got rid of TSA-precheck, I would expect some of the bullshit that regular travelers have to go through would be eliminated. It's pretty easy for people with power and influence to not give a shit about what the rest of us have to deal with, when they never need to experience it.
- andsoitis 4y ago
  > If we got rid of TSA-precheck, I would expect some of the bullshit that regular travelers have to go through would be eliminated. It's pretty easy for people with power and influence to not give a shit about what the rest of us have to deal with, when they never need to experience it. I must admit: if TSA pre-check is an example of what people with power & influence get away with, then I can simply not be convinced of your case.
- joejerryronnie 4y ago
  As a TSA-precheck member, I’ve never felt like part of the ruling class until today. Bow before me and tremble!
dmkolobov 4y ago
Probably more like equity before the law.
jrjrmlrlrlrr 4y ago
He caused $8 billion in suffering and you're concerned he can't use the internet?
- whyenot 4y ago
  That has not been proven. He hasn’t had a trial yet. Maybe you are unfamiliar with the US justice system, but at least in principle the idea is to only punish after someone has been found guilty.
  - user_named 4y ago
    No, it's proven and it's a fact. Legal liability within the US and to what extent, for what, hasn't been proven.