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You lost me at "As much as I hate LLVM." What's to hate?

• saurik 15y ago
  I am often seen arguing against LLVM on purely philosophical grounds from my asserted position in the world of open devices and jailbreaking; specifically that it, and Clang, are now products heavily funded (nearly owned) by Apple with the goal of decreasing their reliance on a project (gcc) that was relicensed under GPLv3, an event that caused Apple to immediately retract all of their engineers from contributing code, or even merging newer versions. This opinion has been strongly forged after numerous dealings with Apple's open source release department, having to pester them over and over again to get updated versions of gcc, gdb, and WebCore for their various systems (most specifically the iPhone, for which they like to redact all open-source code).
  • dextorious 15y ago
    """I am often seen arguing against LLVM on purely philosophical grounds from my asserted position in the world of open devices and jailbreaking; specifically that it, and Clang, are now products heavily funded (nearly owned) by Apple with the goal of decreasing their reliance on a project (gcc) that was relicensed under GPLv3, an event that caused Apple to immediately retract all of their engineers from contributing code, or even merging newer versions""" No, he means whats a valid, actual, technical reason to hate. Also, not it's not just the GPLv3 transition --thought that gave Apple migrating away a huge boost--, it's also tons of technical inefficiencies in the ancient design of GCC. As an example, you couldn't do XCode style AST-aware autocompletion with GCC without tons of hurt.
  • w0utert 15y ago
    So you are basically saying you hate Apple and the way they contribute to OSS (which IMO has been a very significant contribution benefiting many other OSS projects), not LLVM or Clang. Good to have that sorted out... :-/