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Should be denied access to the internet too, like most internet related criminals are on bond conditions.
by googlryas 4y ago
Should be denied access to the internet too, like most internet related criminals are on bond conditions.
- emn13 4y agoHow about: "No use of any software or device that includes any cryptographic algorithms." :-P Back to the stone age it is!
- grubbs 4y agoHe could still mine crypto with a pen and paper!
- dmitryminkovsky 4y ago0.67 hashes per day
- optimalsolver 4y agoSemi-relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/505/ https://xkcd.com/505/
- jrockway 4y agoThat seems needlessly cruel. I'm all for getting to the bottom of what SBF did, but he hasn't been convicted of any crime yet. It's important that we go through the process before applying punishments.
- bigmattystyles 4y agoI wonder what those in pretrial detention in Rikers do without internet, there only because they don’t have resources to bond out.
- jrockway 4y agoYour solution to needless suffering is to add more needless suffering?
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- vkou 4y agoIf we only permitted accused criminals to have public defendants, instead of being able to hire expensive lawyers, I expect that improving the public defense system would magically become a priority for everyone, or at least, for half of the legal profession. If we got rid of TSA-precheck, I would expect some of the bullshit that regular travelers have to go through would be eliminated. It's pretty easy for people with power and influence to not give a shit about what the rest of us have to deal with, when they never need to experience it.
- andsoitis 4y ago> If we got rid of TSA-precheck, I would expect some of the bullshit that regular travelers have to go through would be eliminated. It's pretty easy for people with power and influence to not give a shit about what the rest of us have to deal with, when they never need to experience it. I must admit: if TSA pre-check is an example of what people with power & influence get away with, then I can simply not be convinced of your case.
- joejerryronnie 4y agoAs a TSA-precheck member, I’ve never felt like part of the ruling class until today. Bow before me and tremble!
- dmkolobov 4y agoProbably more like equity before the law.
- jrjrmlrlrlrr 4y agoHe caused $8 billion in suffering and you're concerned he can't use the internet?
- prawn 4y agoI think if his suggested crime involved use of the internet, there's a case for withholding internet from him. Hard to supervise that at a family home, however. Cruel might be a bit of a stretch. He can read and do some sketching. Bit of home maintenance. Have a crafternoon or two.
- chihuahua 4y agoSpend some time thinking about how to make effective altruism even more effective. And bake some sourdough bread.
- googlryas 4y agoNot really, my thought is any kind of bail jumping or favor calling in, or attempts at covering up evidence would be done on the internet. It's to preserve the effectiveness of the trial, not just some arbitrary punishment.
- nimchimpsky 4y ago[dead]
- coffeebeqn 4y agoNo internet? Oh the humanity
- smcl 4y agoWhat would this achieve? I think SBF has done a load of financial crime, but I don’t think we are at risk of him spinning up a new token and making millions. Internet is required for a lot of normal shit, making it illegal is a really cruel punitive thing
- tosc 4y ago> I don’t think we are at risk of him spinning up a new token and making millions. Why not? He has stated that he intends to earn the money again to pay back the creditors.
- colechristensen 4y agoI don’t know about cruel, he’s just preparing for a significant legal defense. Communications, researching, etc using the internet is an important part of defending himself in court which he deserves a fair shot at. The purpose of the bail is to enable him to better participate in the upcoming legal proceedings.
- thelastgallon 4y agoDon't forget the interviews!
- russdill 4y agoI realize that it's easy to reach the forgone conclusion that yes, he's guilty and a criminal. You'd have to really tie yourself into knots to find out how he could be innocent. But our legal system still treats people not yet convicted as....not yet convicted. Speaking more generically, people released on bond need to be able to have the resources necessary to form a proper defense, and also to try and avoid their entire life being destroyed by an arrest that may or may not lead to a conviction.
- throwaway2037 4y agoNormally, I agree. However, considering the statements from current CEO John J. Ray III and two guilty pleas from insiders, it is hard to believe he is innocent. In the digital era, wire fraud is so simple to prove and can carry huge jail sentences. Honestly, I wonder if he will also plead guilty. The evidence against him looks enormous. Even with a guilty plea, I expect 10-20 years jail sentence and all assets seized.