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https://www.vox.com/recode/23453786/tiktok-bytedance-cfius-data-trump-ban https://www.vox.com/recode/23453786/tiktok-bytedance-cfius-d... Senate Intelligence C

https://www.vox.com/recode/23453786/tiktok-bytedance-cfius-data-trump-ban https://www.vox.com/recode/23453786/tiktok-bytedance-cfius-d... Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Mark Warner argues that even if there is nothing wrong with Tiktok it ought to be banned because it gives China a crucial edge in the development of AI tools that American companies don't have. China is able to freely access Western markets but not the other way around. > Finally, there’s the fear that China will be able to use TikTok’s data to power its AI innovations. That’s an advantage the US won’t have because its social media apps are banned in China and because there aren’t laws that would compel social media companies to hand over data just because the government wants it. > “They are aggregating literally billions and billions of images of not just Americans but people from around the world who are using TikTok,” Warner said. “That gives them so much more data to help them create tools that can be utilized in the AI world.”

thomasahle 4y ago
> That’s an advantage the US won’t have because [its social media apps are banned in China and] because there aren’t laws that would compel social media companies to hand over data just because the government wants it. Wait, why would it be an advantage for creation of AI in the US if social media companies (or company) could be more easily compelled to give our data to the government? Given that it's the social media company we are expecting to produce the AI anyway.
- wyldberry 4y ago
  Because Bytedance and similar orgs are merged with the CCP. So they pass data up the chain, and the CCP can make new rules, investments, and directives with it. This allows the CCP to accelerate with this data in ways that the US cannot. So CCP gets full access to American residents, without reciprocating US social media actions within it, and then compels Bytedance to give it access.
  - guhidalg 4y ago
    Can you give me a real example of this data? I don’t doubt it happens, I just want an example to cite.

thomasahle 4y ago

> That’s an advantage the US won’t have because [its social media apps are banned in China and] because there aren’t laws that would compel social media companies to hand over data just because the government wants it. Wait, why would it be an advantage for creation of AI in the US if social media companies (or company) could be more easily compelled to give our data to the government? Given that it's the social media company we are expecting to produce the AI anyway.

wyldberry 4y ago
Because Bytedance and similar orgs are merged with the CCP. So they pass data up the chain, and the CCP can make new rules, investments, and directives with it. This allows the CCP to accelerate with this data in ways that the US cannot. So CCP gets full access to American residents, without reciprocating US social media actions within it, and then compels Bytedance to give it access.
- guhidalg 4y ago
  Can you give me a real example of this data? I don’t doubt it happens, I just want an example to cite.