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There are locations where renewables cannot provide base load all year round.
by msh 4y ago
There are locations where renewables cannot provide base load all year round.
- moloch-hai 4y agoThose places can continue burning cheap NG as they do today, during times when renewables flag, and upgrade to cheap synthetic fuel, imported from the tropics, as it becomes available. Whatever renewables + storage they build reduces their operating cost.
- Zopieux 4y agoAh yes, it is well known that storing intermittent renewable power is a solved problem.
- midoridensha 4y agoWhat is this "cheap NG" you refer to? In places like Japan, NG is anything but cheap, because it has to be imported. Plus, where are you going to buy it from? The main supplier near here is Russia. There's nothing at all "cheap" about NG.
- moloch-hai 4y agoIt costs no more to import NG to Japan than to anywhere else. NG is everywhere cheaper than the same BTUs from oil, the older standard. In the future, the fuel will be synthetic, and cheaper than NG.
- midoridensha 4y agoAgain, where are you going to get it from? Russia? And, no, it's not cheaper than oil, since the transportation process is so expensive and difficult. It's a gas, remember? In case you haven't noticed, Germany's NG has been severely curtailed because of the troubles with Russia, and they're facing a cold winter without much heat. So again, I ask you: where exactly is all this "cheap NG"?
- moloch-hai 4y agoMaybe do some research? NG is transported in liquified form, in the millions of tons, routinely. Germany just constructed a new LNG terminal in record time, to use LNG so imported.
- midoridensha 4y agoLiquifying and shipping NG is far more expensive than just pushing it through a pipeline. Why do you think the NordStream pipelines were even built? And again, for the nth time I'm asking you here, where the fuck are you going to get it from? If it was so easily available, Europe wouldn't be screaming right now, and no one would care about Russia.