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For some schools sure, but do you have any proof of that for Berkeley? I'm an alum and as much as I'd like that to be true I haven't seen anything better than h

For some schools sure, but do you have any proof of that for Berkeley? I'm an alum and as much as I'd like that to be true I haven't seen anything better than handwavey guesses. Last year the top 6 highest paid employees at Berkeley were all coaches or athletics administrators, of which the highest (head football coach Justin Wilcox) was paid $4 million. The football team isn't anything special, consistently coming in middle of the pack and not drawing in huge crowds. The people rooting for Cal are doing it out of college/hometown spirit and not because we think our team is the best. If instead of $4M we spent $200k on a coach, would that change the outcomes at all? That would save $84/student per year in tuition, which is not a negligible amount.

NobodyNada 4y ago
> If instead of $4M we spent $200k on a coach […] that would save $84/student per year in tuition I don’t know how California state schools are run, but at least in Oregon it doesn’t work like this. The athletics programs are funded from a completely different pot of money than the academics, specifically so that football spending doesn’t affect tuition. At Oregon State University (where I’m currently a grad student), the football program is profitable and brings in enough ticket sales to pay for itself and all the rest of the athletics programs too.
- theGnuMe 4y ago
  Right and they could use some of that money to lower tuition but they don't.
  - SoftTalker 4y ago
    They use that money to fund all the scholarships and expenses for the non-revenue sports.
- downrightmike 4y ago
  Don't you guys have a coach that retired years and years ago and is still drawing down millions from the state employee's pension fund?
  - NobodyNada 4y ago
    That’s Mike Bellotti of University of Oregon: https://archive.vn/ZGDP3 https://archive.vn/ZGDP3
arrosenberg 4y ago
It's the PAC12 TV deal more than Cal's individual performance, though obviously things will get weird with UCLA and USC leaving. If teams start hiring "cheap" coaches, the networks will object or demand lower fees.

NobodyNada 4y ago

> If instead of $4M we spent $200k on a coach […] that would save $84/student per year in tuition I don’t know how California state schools are run, but at least in Oregon it doesn’t work like this. The athletics programs are funded from a completely different pot of money than the academics, specifically so that football spending doesn’t affect tuition. At Oregon State University (where I’m currently a grad student), the football program is profitable and brings in enough ticket sales to pay for itself and all the rest of the athletics programs too.

theGnuMe 4y ago
Right and they could use some of that money to lower tuition but they don't.
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  They use that money to fund all the scholarships and expenses for the non-revenue sports.
downrightmike 4y ago
Don't you guys have a coach that retired years and years ago and is still drawing down millions from the state employee's pension fund?
- NobodyNada 4y ago
  That’s Mike Bellotti of University of Oregon: https://archive.vn/ZGDP3 https://archive.vn/ZGDP3

arrosenberg 4y ago

It's the PAC12 TV deal more than Cal's individual performance, though obviously things will get weird with UCLA and USC leaving. If teams start hiring "cheap" coaches, the networks will object or demand lower fees.