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Don't Stanford TAs get $100/h for running classes though? Are the wages you mentioned total or just base with a large variable portion?

by bitL 4y ago

gmadsen 4y ago
Speaking of just other schools, that sounds like that would be without a tuition waver. Typically when these super low stipends are talked about, it is with full tuition paid for. Although I think I have heard that Stanford's PhDs don't get automatic tuition waiving and need to get grant money
- mattkrause 4y ago
  "Tuition" is a bit nebulous for PhDs because most of your time is not actually spent doing coursework: my program had students take 4-5 classes the first year, and 2-3 more at some point in the next four years. You were otherwise registered for placeholder courses like "Dissertation research" and expected to be full-time in the lab. There were plenty of educational opportunities (journal clubs, seminar series, the occasional workshop), but certainly nothing like a full undergrad course load.
  - mcguire 4y ago
    You do have to pay tuition for those "thesis" and "dissertation" classes. In the 1990s-early 2000s, when I was a gradual student at UT Austin, I worked for the university, but not as a TA or RA; as staff, I had to pay for my tuition. At the time, just the "dissertation" class was about $1000 per semester.
j-wags 4y ago
Narrowly speaking, $100/hour is probably true. However my arrangement as a chemistry phd student at UCSD included the following conditions: To be eligible to earn $100/hour, you must be a grad student who: * only earns at that rate for 20 hours per week * is forbidden to work any other job for pay * pays $20k/year in "tuition" despite the fact that you don't take classes after the first year or two of your 5+ year program * also works at least 30 hours per week for $0/hour in your research lab (otherwise your advisor will drop you) So, when you include those conditions, the situation is really "work 50-80 hours per week for $30-35k/year in an expensive california city". Which people were fine to do until phd student stipends started falling behind the cost of living in these cities for the past 10 years.

Don't Stanford TAs get $100/h for running classes though? Are the wages you mentioned total or just base with a large variable portion?

by bitL 4y ago

Don't Stanford TAs get $100/h for running classes though? Are the wages you mentioned total or just base with a large variable portion?

gmadsen 4y ago

Speaking of just other schools, that sounds like that would be without a tuition waver. Typically when these super low stipends are talked about, it is with full tuition paid for. Although I think I have heard that Stanford's PhDs don't get automatic tuition waiving and need to get grant money

mattkrause 4y ago
"Tuition" is a bit nebulous for PhDs because most of your time is not actually spent doing coursework: my program had students take 4-5 classes the first year, and 2-3 more at some point in the next four years. You were otherwise registered for placeholder courses like "Dissertation research" and expected to be full-time in the lab. There were plenty of educational opportunities (journal clubs, seminar series, the occasional workshop), but certainly nothing like a full undergrad course load.
- mcguire 4y ago
  You do have to pay tuition for those "thesis" and "dissertation" classes. In the 1990s-early 2000s, when I was a gradual student at UT Austin, I worked for the university, but not as a TA or RA; as staff, I had to pay for my tuition. At the time, just the "dissertation" class was about $1000 per semester.

j-wags 4y ago

Narrowly speaking, $100/hour is probably true. However my arrangement as a chemistry phd student at UCSD included the following conditions: To be eligible to earn $100/hour, you must be a grad student who: * only earns at that rate for 20 hours per week * is forbidden to work any other job for pay * pays $20k/year in "tuition" despite the fact that you don't take classes after the first year or two of your 5+ year program * also works at least 30 hours per week for $0/hour in your research lab (otherwise your advisor will drop you) So, when you include those conditions, the situation is really "work 50-80 hours per week for $30-35k/year in an expensive california city". Which people were fine to do until phd student stipends started falling behind the cost of living in these cities for the past 10 years.