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Does the user require to install a separate app to receive UnifiedPush messages?

MayeulC 4y ago
Yes, they need to have a UnifiedPush distributor on their device, that acts like Google services. OS makers could install a default UnifiedPush distributor though. Lastly, the Embedded FCM UnifiedPush library (to be embeded into a client app) handles UnifiedPush over FCM (Google-provided push notifications), so that a server only has to handle the UnifiedPush API (with a rewrite proxy for UP->FCM). https://unifiedpush.org/developers/embedded_fcm/ https://unifiedpush.org/developers/embedded_fcm/
ehutch79 4y ago
We can't get users to understand that the ceo isn't sending them mail from giftcards563@gmail.com to go and buy giftcards, and not to ask any questions. What's the actual likely hood that the average end user is going to install a random service?
- karmanyaahm 4y ago
  > What's the actual likely hood that the average end user is going to install a random service? For now, UnifiedPush is targeted towards De-Googlers, self-hosters and FOSS enthusiasts, not average users.
  - ehutch79 4y ago
    Except, in the threads here, this is called out repeatedly as a replacement for push notifications on phones, replacing webpush, apple push notifications, and whatever google is calling it. Which implies the use case people are seeing is phone apps. Unless people are building one off apps for themselves, you've got end users in the mix. I don't see how this can be positions as much outside of phone apps, as txt messages or emails would be easier and more universal. Being that they're probably going to be supported here. To note, i haven't see anyone talking about this being replacement for the part of webpush that handles registration for notifications or whatnot, but as a whole separate channel/technology. Not 'install this to avoid using google/apple for webpush' but 'use this in your app, and have your users install the service'.
    - palata 4y ago
      Some apps just offer both, and even auto-detect. So if your phone is de-googled, the app will use UP, if it has the Google Services it will use that. For some apps it is available in the settings. So yeah, the app has to support it, but the user can choose then.
    - Groxx 4y ago
      People are seeing it as a way to get efficient push notifications in an open, decentralized system. That's pretty much it. Because there isn't really any possible alternative except something that looks like this. GCM/APNS/ETC do not fit those requirements, so it needs to be something new.

Yes, they need to have a UnifiedPush distributor on their device, that acts like Google services. OS makers could install a default UnifiedPush distributor though. Lastly, the Embedded FCM UnifiedPush library (to be embeded into a client app) handles UnifiedPush over FCM (Google-provided push notifications), so that a server only has to handle the UnifiedPush API (with a rewrite proxy for UP->FCM). https://unifiedpush.org/developers/embedded_fcm/ https://unifiedpush.org/developers/embedded_fcm/

ehutch79 4y ago

We can't get users to understand that the ceo isn't sending them mail from giftcards563@gmail.com to go and buy giftcards, and not to ask any questions. What's the actual likely hood that the average end user is going to install a random service?

karmanyaahm 4y ago
> What's the actual likely hood that the average end user is going to install a random service? For now, UnifiedPush is targeted towards De-Googlers, self-hosters and FOSS enthusiasts, not average users.
- ehutch79 4y ago
  Except, in the threads here, this is called out repeatedly as a replacement for push notifications on phones, replacing webpush, apple push notifications, and whatever google is calling it. Which implies the use case people are seeing is phone apps. Unless people are building one off apps for themselves, you've got end users in the mix. I don't see how this can be positions as much outside of phone apps, as txt messages or emails would be easier and more universal. Being that they're probably going to be supported here. To note, i haven't see anyone talking about this being replacement for the part of webpush that handles registration for notifications or whatnot, but as a whole separate channel/technology. Not 'install this to avoid using google/apple for webpush' but 'use this in your app, and have your users install the service'.
  - palata 4y ago
    Some apps just offer both, and even auto-detect. So if your phone is de-googled, the app will use UP, if it has the Google Services it will use that. For some apps it is available in the settings. So yeah, the app has to support it, but the user can choose then.
  - Groxx 4y ago
    People are seeing it as a way to get efficient push notifications in an open, decentralized system. That's pretty much it. Because there isn't really any possible alternative except something that looks like this. GCM/APNS/ETC do not fit those requirements, so it needs to be something new.