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Weather conditions across the U.S. mean bomb cyclones are possible

19 points by tux 4y ago

PopAlongKid 4y ago
"The origins of bomb as a meteorologic term are not entirely clear; although reputed to have been in spoken use for a number of decades prior to this, our earliest written record of this sense of bomb occurs in 1980."[0] I call B.S. on "bomb" as a meterological term "for a number of decades prior", it is just another lame clickbait term. "The rapid intensification of a low-pressure system in which the barometric pressure of the system drops at least 24 millibars in 24 hours (also referred to as explosive cyclogenesis)"[1] is nothing like an actual bomb. [0]https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-bombogenesis https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-bombog... [1]https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-bombogenesis https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-bombog...
- thefurdrake 4y ago
  I'm not sure it follows that it's a clickbait term rather than having a simpler explanation. It seems more to me that "explosive cyclogenesis" is a bit too complex for the sub 7th-grade reading level most Americans are comfortable with. To me, the relationship is pretty clear: Explosive => Bomb Cyclogenesis => Cyclone Suddenly your news article is based on a concept whose nomenclature doesn't require you to know how Latin roots work.
  - techdragon 4y ago
    Like a bomb calorimeter… you rapidly decompose your sample to efficiently extract the energy from it in thermal form for measurement.
  - PopAlongKid 4y ago
    My point was that while the actual weather event has presumably been happening for all of human history, it is only in the last decade or so that the term "bomb" has been applied to it, which I conclude is solely for clickbait reasons. here is some evidence: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=bomb+cyclone&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=bomb+cyclone&y...
    - thefurdrake 4y ago
      And my point is that your conclusion have to doesn't follow when pandering to American literacy to make sure the lowest common denominator comprehends what they're reading is just as likely a scenario. It's been a trend in "journalism" for a very long time. You ignored what I said and repeated yourself, good job.
      - PopAlongKid 4y ago
        >to make sure the lowest common denominator comprehends what they're reading So are you saying that prior to the last 10-15 years, "lowest common denominator" people didn't understand anything about when a low pressure system developed quite rapidly around them, changing the local weather drastically -- because there was no easy-to-understand name for it?
        thefurdrake 4y ago
        No, that is indeed not what I am saying.
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19 points by tux 4y ago

"The origins of bomb as a meteorologic term are not entirely clear; although reputed to have been in spoken use for a number of decades prior to this, our earliest written record of this sense of bomb occurs in 1980."[0] I call B.S. on "bomb" as a meterological term "for a number of decades prior", it is just another lame clickbait term. "The rapid intensification of a low-pressure system in which the barometric pressure of the system drops at least 24 millibars in 24 hours (also referred to as explosive cyclogenesis)"[1] is nothing like an actual bomb. [0]https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-bombogenesis https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-bombog... [1]https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-bombogenesis https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/what-is-bombog...

thefurdrake 4y ago
I'm not sure it follows that it's a clickbait term rather than having a simpler explanation. It seems more to me that "explosive cyclogenesis" is a bit too complex for the sub 7th-grade reading level most Americans are comfortable with. To me, the relationship is pretty clear: Explosive => Bomb Cyclogenesis => Cyclone Suddenly your news article is based on a concept whose nomenclature doesn't require you to know how Latin roots work.
- techdragon 4y ago
  Like a bomb calorimeter… you rapidly decompose your sample to efficiently extract the energy from it in thermal form for measurement.
- PopAlongKid 4y ago
  My point was that while the actual weather event has presumably been happening for all of human history, it is only in the last decade or so that the term "bomb" has been applied to it, which I conclude is solely for clickbait reasons. here is some evidence: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=bomb+cyclone&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3 https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=bomb+cyclone&y...
  - thefurdrake 4y ago
    And my point is that your conclusion have to doesn't follow when pandering to American literacy to make sure the lowest common denominator comprehends what they're reading is just as likely a scenario. It's been a trend in "journalism" for a very long time. You ignored what I said and repeated yourself, good job.
    - PopAlongKid 4y ago
      >to make sure the lowest common denominator comprehends what they're reading So are you saying that prior to the last 10-15 years, "lowest common denominator" people didn't understand anything about when a low pressure system developed quite rapidly around them, changing the local weather drastically -- because there was no easy-to-understand name for it?
      - thefurdrake 4y ago
        No, that is indeed not what I am saying.
      - deleted 4y ago
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