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I'll tell you what my takeaway is: It is incredibly stupid for the National Merit program to leave the decision to notify students up to the schools. In such a

I'll tell you what my takeaway is: It is incredibly stupid for the National Merit program to leave the decision to notify students up to the schools. In such a situation it is entirely 100% certain that a situation like the one at Thomas Jefferson High School will eventually happen. In fact it's probably happened multiple times already, due to incompetence, which is why it should scrapped. From the article: > On September 16 of this year, National Merit sent a letter to Bonitatibus listing 240 students recognized as Commended Students or Semi-Finalists. The letter included these words in bold type: “Please present the letters of commendation as soon as possible since it is the students’ only notification.” You know what's better than a system where the schools need to be monitored to make sure they tell their students? A system where you don't have to scrutinize what the schools do, because you told the parents and the kids directly. It's 2022. You have the information of the students who took the tests, obviously. This is a solvable problem. It can, and should, be fixed.

crystalmeph 4y ago
I would bet that there has literally never been a school that failed to notify the recipients before now. It is not just an honor for the student, but the school itself. Yes, now, the National Merit organization will probably come up with a direct notification procedure, but it was not a failure on their part to assume that schools would act in their own self-interest.
- eppp 4y ago
  I would guess that the number of people that act directly against their own self interest on a regular basis is a very high percentage of the population.
- matthewdgreen 4y ago
  Except that the article says the school did notify the students. Overall I'm just confused by it.
  - RestlessMind 4y ago
    You are probably confused because you didn't read the article carefully? It says the school notified "after the early-application deadlines had passed". Also: "On Monday, December 12, after getting caught, Kosatka sent an email to the parents of Commended Students, notifying them of the “important recognition” and saying, “We are deeply sorry” for not sharing the news earlier. He claimed school officials would contact college admissions offices to correct the record."
    - matthewdgreen 4y ago
      Well that's the thing. Unlike you I did read the article carefully. The article makes two explicit claims: (1) the timing of emails to parents occurred after the early college application deadline, and (2) the timing of physical distribution of certificates did as well. However in addition to those (superfluous) notifications, the article notes that the individual students themselves received email notifications: this is the notification I referred to in my previous post. Strangely the article brushes past this point and never addresses precisely when these notifications were sent to students. This was the part of the article I found confusing, given that the notification to students would be the most important date that determines whether a student could use the information in their college application. If the school sent emails to students' accounts, the date should be easy to verify and include in the article, but the author does not do this. "One former student said he learned he had won the award through a random email from the school to a school-district email account that students rarely check; the principal neither told his parents nor made a public announcement." Indeed, zooming in on the specific claims regarding application deadlines, it's hard not to put together the following picture and observe that it is entirely compatible with the precise way the author (apparently an accomplished journalist) wrote the piece: 1. The school received the notifications in mid-October. 2. They sent out email notifications to students in a timely fashion. 3. Students failed to read these "random email notifications" because, duh, they're teenagers and don't check their school email. 4. The physical certificates (irrelevant, but a nice keepsake) took longer to distribute 5. Parents were notified only later on, and then pitched a fit about it because (unlike their kids) they do read their email. 6. The school, mollified by the parents' fury, promised to notify the parents in the future so that they could make sure their kids' inattention to email wouldn't result in further screwups. 7. An angry parent wrote an article subtitled "Why are administrators at a top-ranked public high school hiding National Merit awards from students and families?" implying (falsely) that the school deliberately withheld notification to students, and carefully cherry-picking facts to make that case.
johnnyo 4y ago
You missed the even dumber part > National Merit hadn’t included enough stamps on the package, but nevertheless it got to Bonitatibus by mid-October The parent is basically complaining that the school didn’t drop everything and make handing out certificates to 240 students their top priority. They were handed out to student a few weeks later
- sofixa 4y ago
  You missed the even dumber part: > One former student said he learned he had won the award through a random email from the school to a school-district email account that students rarely check; the principal neither told his parents nor made a public announcement So the students were notified by email, which they don't bother checking, and it's only the regular old mail that was slow to get to them (for regular old mail and physical constraints reasons, nothing extraordinary).

crystalmeph 4y ago

I would bet that there has literally never been a school that failed to notify the recipients before now. It is not just an honor for the student, but the school itself. Yes, now, the National Merit organization will probably come up with a direct notification procedure, but it was not a failure on their part to assume that schools would act in their own self-interest.

eppp 4y ago
I would guess that the number of people that act directly against their own self interest on a regular basis is a very high percentage of the population.
matthewdgreen 4y ago
Except that the article says the school did notify the students. Overall I'm just confused by it.
- RestlessMind 4y ago
  You are probably confused because you didn't read the article carefully? It says the school notified "after the early-application deadlines had passed". Also: "On Monday, December 12, after getting caught, Kosatka sent an email to the parents of Commended Students, notifying them of the “important recognition” and saying, “We are deeply sorry” for not sharing the news earlier. He claimed school officials would contact college admissions offices to correct the record."
  - matthewdgreen 4y ago
    Well that's the thing. Unlike you I did read the article carefully. The article makes two explicit claims: (1) the timing of emails to parents occurred after the early college application deadline, and (2) the timing of physical distribution of certificates did as well. However in addition to those (superfluous) notifications, the article notes that the individual students themselves received email notifications: this is the notification I referred to in my previous post. Strangely the article brushes past this point and never addresses precisely when these notifications were sent to students. This was the part of the article I found confusing, given that the notification to students would be the most important date that determines whether a student could use the information in their college application. If the school sent emails to students' accounts, the date should be easy to verify and include in the article, but the author does not do this. "One former student said he learned he had won the award through a random email from the school to a school-district email account that students rarely check; the principal neither told his parents nor made a public announcement." Indeed, zooming in on the specific claims regarding application deadlines, it's hard not to put together the following picture and observe that it is entirely compatible with the precise way the author (apparently an accomplished journalist) wrote the piece: 1. The school received the notifications in mid-October. 2. They sent out email notifications to students in a timely fashion. 3. Students failed to read these "random email notifications" because, duh, they're teenagers and don't check their school email. 4. The physical certificates (irrelevant, but a nice keepsake) took longer to distribute 5. Parents were notified only later on, and then pitched a fit about it because (unlike their kids) they do read their email. 6. The school, mollified by the parents' fury, promised to notify the parents in the future so that they could make sure their kids' inattention to email wouldn't result in further screwups. 7. An angry parent wrote an article subtitled "Why are administrators at a top-ranked public high school hiding National Merit awards from students and families?" implying (falsely) that the school deliberately withheld notification to students, and carefully cherry-picking facts to make that case.

johnnyo 4y ago

You missed the even dumber part > National Merit hadn’t included enough stamps on the package, but nevertheless it got to Bonitatibus by mid-October The parent is basically complaining that the school didn’t drop everything and make handing out certificates to 240 students their top priority. They were handed out to student a few weeks later

sofixa 4y ago
You missed the even dumber part: > One former student said he learned he had won the award through a random email from the school to a school-district email account that students rarely check; the principal neither told his parents nor made a public announcement So the students were notified by email, which they don't bother checking, and it's only the regular old mail that was slow to get to them (for regular old mail and physical constraints reasons, nothing extraordinary).