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Similar to dithering, I believe film grain does help you resolve finer visual details. Having no texture would cause issues when trying to match things shot on

Similar to dithering, I believe film grain does help you resolve finer visual details. Having no texture would cause issues when trying to match things shot on different cameras as well. I agree with you that many movies and shows are guilty of adding so much grain it becomes distracting, but I was watching Schindler's List in UHD and loved how natural it looked. Things like clothing just felt more real and I didn't realize until the end that it was because of the expertly used film grain. The value of grain becomes obvious when you look at clips of that movie online. https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_dithering.php https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_dithering.php

jibe 4y ago
>it was because of the expertly used film grain That is an interesting way to frame it. I see it more as an expert use of 35mm film and lighting, and the grain is just present because it is inherent to the medium.
- knaik94 4y ago
  When going from film to digital, you have to modify the source noise in some way and there's no way to avoid it. A 1 to 1 transfer is possible, but I haven't come across any. Instead I have seen so many times where films either denoised too much or added too much artificial grain during the transfer. Starting from a very good source definitely helped, but film is limited in certain ways that digital isn't. Additionally, color grading for HDR10 and Dolby Vision was done. I didn't think that HDR would make a huge difference in a mostly black and white film but it does. The second picture comparison is what encouraged me to rewatch the movie again. [1] [1] https://www.hdnumerique.com/dossiers/962-test-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-schindler.html https://www.hdnumerique.com/dossiers/962-test-4k-ultra-hd-bl...
  - ilyt 4y ago
    It honestly looks more like the first one was recorded with slightly higher brightness, every "old" scene is brighter

jibe 4y ago

>it was because of the expertly used film grain That is an interesting way to frame it. I see it more as an expert use of 35mm film and lighting, and the grain is just present because it is inherent to the medium.

knaik94 4y ago
When going from film to digital, you have to modify the source noise in some way and there's no way to avoid it. A 1 to 1 transfer is possible, but I haven't come across any. Instead I have seen so many times where films either denoised too much or added too much artificial grain during the transfer. Starting from a very good source definitely helped, but film is limited in certain ways that digital isn't. Additionally, color grading for HDR10 and Dolby Vision was done. I didn't think that HDR would make a huge difference in a mostly black and white film but it does. The second picture comparison is what encouraged me to rewatch the movie again. [1] [1] https://www.hdnumerique.com/dossiers/962-test-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-schindler.html https://www.hdnumerique.com/dossiers/962-test-4k-ultra-hd-bl...
- ilyt 4y ago
  It honestly looks more like the first one was recorded with slightly higher brightness, every "old" scene is brighter