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1.2 million people in the workforce died? 70% of covid deaths were over the age of 70 years. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2006392117 https://www.pnas

1.2 million people in the workforce died? 70% of covid deaths were over the age of 70 years. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2006392117 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2006392117

MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
I hope this isn't too shocking but a lot of janitorial and housekeeping work is done by retirement aged people who don't have enough money to actually retire.
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  The other big piece - especially to the hospitality puzzle - is that immigration was substantially reduced. First politically and then due to Covid. If you look at the number of work visas issued by year, we’re short literally millions of immigrants that would be doing much of the grunt work in restaurants and hotels.
  - EricDeb 4y ago
    visas are taking forever at the moment.. for any type
    - rippercushions 4y ago
      Yup. In many countries you're looking at a wait of over a year to get an appointment for a tourist visa interview.
shagie 4y ago
4M of them got long covid and are unable to be worker that is sufficiently reliable for shift work in the service sector. https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-data-shows-long-covid-is-keeping-as-many-as-4-million-people-out-of-work/ https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-data-shows-long-covid...
- tluyben2 4y ago
  That’s what is a massive issue I see in the EU even if it’s underreported; too many people I know cannot work because of long covid. Some tried anyway and burnt out because of trying too hard; now they have 2 problems. Luckily most of them are in NL where you won’t end up in a tent under a bridge, but I think long covid is taken way too light (at least over here).
  - consp 4y ago
    If by NL you mean the Netherlands: Long covid falls under a weird category which for all practical purposes means you have to fight the UWV nail and tooth to get even the tiniest bit of leeway. Which you can't since working 40h/week to get proper care+benefits is exactly the problem you are trying to avoid. Oh, and the state already said the uwv should stop doing that but they keep going like they always did. (my evidence for this is anecdotal second hand though).
scarface74 4y ago
And how many of those were grandparents doing Fred child care that allowed people to work at low paying jobs?

1.2 million people in the workforce died? 70% of covid deaths were over the age of 70 years. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2006392117 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2006392117

MonkeyMalarky 4y ago

I hope this isn't too shocking but a lot of janitorial and housekeeping work is done by retirement aged people who don't have enough money to actually retire.

mikeyouse 4y ago
The other big piece - especially to the hospitality puzzle - is that immigration was substantially reduced. First politically and then due to Covid. If you look at the number of work visas issued by year, we’re short literally millions of immigrants that would be doing much of the grunt work in restaurants and hotels.
- EricDeb 4y ago
  visas are taking forever at the moment.. for any type
  - rippercushions 4y ago
    Yup. In many countries you're looking at a wait of over a year to get an appointment for a tourist visa interview.

shagie 4y ago

4M of them got long covid and are unable to be worker that is sufficiently reliable for shift work in the service sector. https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-data-shows-long-covid-is-keeping-as-many-as-4-million-people-out-of-work/ https://www.brookings.edu/research/new-data-shows-long-covid...

tluyben2 4y ago
That’s what is a massive issue I see in the EU even if it’s underreported; too many people I know cannot work because of long covid. Some tried anyway and burnt out because of trying too hard; now they have 2 problems. Luckily most of them are in NL where you won’t end up in a tent under a bridge, but I think long covid is taken way too light (at least over here).
- consp 4y ago
  If by NL you mean the Netherlands: Long covid falls under a weird category which for all practical purposes means you have to fight the UWV nail and tooth to get even the tiniest bit of leeway. Which you can't since working 40h/week to get proper care+benefits is exactly the problem you are trying to avoid. Oh, and the state already said the uwv should stop doing that but they keep going like they always did. (my evidence for this is anecdotal second hand though).

scarface74 4y ago

And how many of those were grandparents doing Fred child care that allowed people to work at low paying jobs?