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I ride daily, to commute and workout and just for joy on a Sunday. In a city. I've never considered anything but a steel frame (most common), in the realm of $

I ride daily, to commute and workout and just for joy on a Sunday. In a city. I've never considered anything but a steel frame (most common), in the realm of $1000 or less fully built. Sure, I desire more. But we're talking about 10% satisfaction improvement for my (our) needs. And I definitely will splurge on a new bike soon, but only because I have money to burn. I am contemplating a $3-500ish fitting with all the latest tech and a trained expert. That feels honestly worth it for anyone because it will likely save you injury.

fshbbdssbbgdd 4y ago
If your budget is $1000, you could find something really nice on the used market.
skeeter2020 4y ago
The funny thing is you can go really expensive with steel as well. If you're at the $1000 price point you're probably not using really good brakes or wheels; both can vastly improve your ride and enjoyment.
- wnolens 4y ago
  I agree. There's always more to pay. But I've never thought to myself "geez my brakes aren't enough". Disc brakes are too powerful IMO, and thus dangerous. And honestly I don't even know what difference wheels would make? Mine are circular, stay true. Why do folks pay thousands on hand built wheels? Gears/derailleurs I have a tough time with.. even nice ones seem to need constant adjustment so I ride a single speed now and feel like I discovered a bike secret. I'd spend on fit, frame, seat, tires as a min bar to be picky about.
  - prmoustache 4y ago
    > Disc brakes are too powerful IMO, and thus dangerous. Not true at all. People learn to modulate instinctively in a matter of seconds when switching from different bikes/brake systems. Besides deoending on pad compound and rim material many v-brakes are very brutal with a low curve between doing nothing and grabbing hard compared to cantilevers and road calipers, so it not only about disc vs rim brake systems.

fshbbdssbbgdd 4y ago

If your budget is $1000, you could find something really nice on the used market.

skeeter2020 4y ago

The funny thing is you can go really expensive with steel as well. If you're at the $1000 price point you're probably not using really good brakes or wheels; both can vastly improve your ride and enjoyment.

wnolens 4y ago
I agree. There's always more to pay. But I've never thought to myself "geez my brakes aren't enough". Disc brakes are too powerful IMO, and thus dangerous. And honestly I don't even know what difference wheels would make? Mine are circular, stay true. Why do folks pay thousands on hand built wheels? Gears/derailleurs I have a tough time with.. even nice ones seem to need constant adjustment so I ride a single speed now and feel like I discovered a bike secret. I'd spend on fit, frame, seat, tires as a min bar to be picky about.
- prmoustache 4y ago
  > Disc brakes are too powerful IMO, and thus dangerous. Not true at all. People learn to modulate instinctively in a matter of seconds when switching from different bikes/brake systems. Besides deoending on pad compound and rim material many v-brakes are very brutal with a low curve between doing nothing and grabbing hard compared to cantilevers and road calipers, so it not only about disc vs rim brake systems.