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I found out that the most important skills in the IT industry is the bullshit skill. That's the kind of skill you need to build.

giantg2 4y ago
I agree. I strongly suspect the people telling OP they aren't worried about finding another job are bullshitting him. Or in some cases, maybe their egos have them believing it too.
- kelnos 4y ago
  > Or in some cases, maybe their egos have them believing it too. If that's the case, then mission accomplished. It seems that OP's root goal is to avoid the crippling anxiety and stress. Convincing yourself that it's not a problem -- even if it is -- also accomplishes that. Maybe it's not the best, but you're going to get laid off (or not) regardless of whatever anxiety or stress you feel leading up to that point. Better to just not feel the stress in the first place. Really, though, is it that hard for you to believe that no one could feel confident in their skills such that they believe that they'd still be able to find a job during an economic downturn? It seems a little nonsensical to take that position.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    I guess I should have said most people. I'm sure there are some high performers who aren't worried. I would think most average folks would be the ones who are concerned. I know I am.
- rajeshp1986 4y ago
  on the contrary, I have seen people BSing their way be more insecure about their job during layoffs. During the layoffs its mostly strategic decision taken not just by your immediate boss but by CEOs or VP levels and managing up might not save your ass.
- scarface74 4y ago
  I’ve worked for 26 years across 8 jobs - 6 since 2008. It’s never taken me longer than a month to get a job.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    Sounds like you're lucky. I'm unlucky and average. I would be afraid that I wouldn't get another job if I got fired.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      Is it really luck after 8 times? I’ve kept my skills in sync with the market and kept a strong network. Most of those years from 1996-2020 I was just your run of the mill enterprise CRUD developer.
      - giantg2 4y ago
        It could be.
convolvatron 4y ago
lots of people play this game....you don't have to. it may ultimately limit your ability to gain a high paying position that lives entirely in the marketing-verse and spouts drivel. but not all of us wants that
- 0cf8612b2e1e 4y ago
  You may not like it, but you should at least acknowledge the perspective. I can think of several examples of people whose primary skill is “managing up” and can impress those writing the checks. I take pride in doing what I consider to be generating business value, but I strongly believe that my compensation would be higher if I spent more time self-promoting rather than doing “real work”.
  - convolvatron 4y ago
    I consider managing up to be critical skill for me at least. my version is that I tell them naked truth...some people appreciate that
    - operatingthetan 4y ago
      >my version is that I tell them naked truth...some people appreciate that It's possible to play both games.
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giantg2 4y ago

I agree. I strongly suspect the people telling OP they aren't worried about finding another job are bullshitting him. Or in some cases, maybe their egos have them believing it too.

kelnos 4y ago
> Or in some cases, maybe their egos have them believing it too. If that's the case, then mission accomplished. It seems that OP's root goal is to avoid the crippling anxiety and stress. Convincing yourself that it's not a problem -- even if it is -- also accomplishes that. Maybe it's not the best, but you're going to get laid off (or not) regardless of whatever anxiety or stress you feel leading up to that point. Better to just not feel the stress in the first place. Really, though, is it that hard for you to believe that no one could feel confident in their skills such that they believe that they'd still be able to find a job during an economic downturn? It seems a little nonsensical to take that position.
- giantg2 4y ago
  I guess I should have said most people. I'm sure there are some high performers who aren't worried. I would think most average folks would be the ones who are concerned. I know I am.
rajeshp1986 4y ago
on the contrary, I have seen people BSing their way be more insecure about their job during layoffs. During the layoffs its mostly strategic decision taken not just by your immediate boss but by CEOs or VP levels and managing up might not save your ass.
scarface74 4y ago
I’ve worked for 26 years across 8 jobs - 6 since 2008. It’s never taken me longer than a month to get a job.
- giantg2 4y ago
  Sounds like you're lucky. I'm unlucky and average. I would be afraid that I wouldn't get another job if I got fired.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Is it really luck after 8 times? I’ve kept my skills in sync with the market and kept a strong network. Most of those years from 1996-2020 I was just your run of the mill enterprise CRUD developer.
    - giantg2 4y ago
      It could be.

convolvatron 4y ago

lots of people play this game....you don't have to. it may ultimately limit your ability to gain a high paying position that lives entirely in the marketing-verse and spouts drivel. but not all of us wants that

0cf8612b2e1e 4y ago
You may not like it, but you should at least acknowledge the perspective. I can think of several examples of people whose primary skill is “managing up” and can impress those writing the checks. I take pride in doing what I consider to be generating business value, but I strongly believe that my compensation would be higher if I spent more time self-promoting rather than doing “real work”.
- convolvatron 4y ago
  I consider managing up to be critical skill for me at least. my version is that I tell them naked truth...some people appreciate that
  - operatingthetan 4y ago
    >my version is that I tell them naked truth...some people appreciate that It's possible to play both games.

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