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So why bother to judge something that you refuse to read? Are you serious? Graphs from EU data about excess mortality are conspiracy theories now?

mikeyouse 4y ago
Posting charts reflecting excess mortality during a pandemic and attributing that to the vaccine gives the game away a bit, no?
nerdponx 4y ago
> So why bother to judge something that you refuse to read? They did read it, and concluded it wasn't useful. > Graphs from EU data about excess mortality are conspiracy theories now? Excess mortality, by design, does not say anything about causes. In the USA for example, you can hypothesize a variety of plausible reasons for continued high excess mortality, pandemic-related and otherwise (increased crime, lower incomes, decreased access to non-Covid healthcare, increased highway speeds, et alia), but the excess mortality number itself cannot tell you the relative strengths of those causes.
- t0bia_s 4y ago
  "They did read it, and concluded it wasn't useful.“ Response was few minutes after post. No wonder that answer is not even related to content of links.
  - nerdponx 4y ago
    This is a wildly disingenuous response. If you claim that you saw Bigfoot, and your evidence is a sketch on the back of a napkin, I don't need to carefully study the sketch to reject it as useful evidence.
PuppyTailWags 4y ago
tbh, I didn't see any establishment of causal relationship with excess mortality. This is like debugging a program by looking at the git history, without actually seriously thinking about what the bug actually is. It could be something recent. It could be something that was messed up ages ago and is only coming to rear its head now.
ausbah 4y ago
I never mentioned the dashboards, I'm on mobile so they weren't loading for me. Also yes, I think I can give a pretty good judgement on the quality of a piece based on simple heuristics like the quality of the hosting site, or the background credentials of the authors.
- t0bia_s 4y ago
  Be more specific. What background of which author? What quality of hosting site?

mikeyouse 4y ago

Posting charts reflecting excess mortality during a pandemic and attributing that to the vaccine gives the game away a bit, no?

nerdponx 4y ago

> So why bother to judge something that you refuse to read? They did read it, and concluded it wasn't useful. > Graphs from EU data about excess mortality are conspiracy theories now? Excess mortality, by design, does not say anything about causes. In the USA for example, you can hypothesize a variety of plausible reasons for continued high excess mortality, pandemic-related and otherwise (increased crime, lower incomes, decreased access to non-Covid healthcare, increased highway speeds, et alia), but the excess mortality number itself cannot tell you the relative strengths of those causes.

t0bia_s 4y ago
"They did read it, and concluded it wasn't useful.“ Response was few minutes after post. No wonder that answer is not even related to content of links.
- nerdponx 4y ago
  This is a wildly disingenuous response. If you claim that you saw Bigfoot, and your evidence is a sketch on the back of a napkin, I don't need to carefully study the sketch to reject it as useful evidence.

PuppyTailWags 4y ago

tbh, I didn't see any establishment of causal relationship with excess mortality. This is like debugging a program by looking at the git history, without actually seriously thinking about what the bug actually is. It could be something recent. It could be something that was messed up ages ago and is only coming to rear its head now.

ausbah 4y ago

I never mentioned the dashboards, I'm on mobile so they weren't loading for me. Also yes, I think I can give a pretty good judgement on the quality of a piece based on simple heuristics like the quality of the hosting site, or the background credentials of the authors.

t0bia_s 4y ago
Be more specific. What background of which author? What quality of hosting site?