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Porch pirates stole 260M packages this year

11 points by graderjs 4y ago

ubj 4y ago
Obligatory links to YouTuber Mark Rober's quest for vengeance against porch pirates: * Glitter Bomb 1.0 vs Porch Pirates: https://youtu.be/xoxhDk-hwuo https://youtu.be/xoxhDk-hwuo * Glitter Bomb 2.0 vs Porch Pirates: https://youtu.be/a_TSR_v07m0 https://youtu.be/a_TSR_v07m0 * Glitter Bomb 3.0 vs Porch Pirates: https://youtu.be/h4T_LlK1VE4 https://youtu.be/h4T_LlK1VE4 * Exploding Glitter Bomb 4.0 vs Package Thieves: https://youtu.be/3c584TGG7jQ https://youtu.be/3c584TGG7jQ * Car Thieves vs the Final Glitter Bomb 5.0: https://youtu.be/iWeu2dxHRDg https://youtu.be/iWeu2dxHRDg
- anononaut 4y ago
  Magnificent!
- syspec 4y ago
  Weren't these found to be fake? I remember a whole controversy about it
  - ubj 4y ago
tibbydudeza 4y ago
Here we either collect packages from a distribution place or a courier will hand delivery and have somebody sign for the delivery - leaving a package on a porch is rather baffling.
- thehappypm 4y ago
  It’s much faster. So, they need fewer trucks, fewer drivers. It appears to be cheaper to let some packages get stolen and eat that cost than it would be to slow down deliveries.
  - tibbydudeza 4y ago
    Point taken - just shrinkage in the system or no Amazon Prime.
avgDev 4y ago
Allegedly. I know people who stole their own packages, the 2nd item they just resold.
mox1 4y ago
Is this just an Amazon ad / puff-piece ? The retired Police officer recommends "Amazon key" as his first defense. Then after that he recommends Amazon locker. Lastly the officer recommends a Ring camera. Not a video camera or video doorbell, but a "Ring". The article then goes on to give you an exact link for signing up to Amazon key and mentions Prime members. The pictures are from a Ring camera. The word Amazon appears like 5 times in the article.....
phone8675309 4y ago
I never understood the historical practice of cutting off the hands of recidivist petty thieves until porch pirates started stealing my packages. Now I'm fully onboard.
- yourapostasy 4y ago
  I wonder if there are any statistical correlations between an increase in porch pirates and other crime? Also, I wonder if the Glitter Bomb lessons can be applied using a DNA forensic property marking system to secure nearly 100% conviction rates and fast response by law enforcement seeking to juice their arrest-to-conviction metrics. Might have to leave an actual Amazon delivery in the bait box to secure proof of harm in court? Instead of only spraying glitter, also spray the DNA marker and live narrowcast both GPS and an OpenHaystack transmitter to law enforcement to direct them in real-time to the right door to investigate.
  - feet 4y ago
    What exactly is a "DNA marker"?
    - yourapostasy 4y ago
      Synthetically-manufactured uniqely coded DNA that is sprayed onto perpetrators of a crime linking them from days to months to a location and/or property. An example of one of many companies in the space [1]. A search that opens up some rabbit holes [2]. More needs to be done in the space to develop it (there are several defeats I can think of as long as a perpetrator is aware such a system is in use), but it is still a promising channel to speed up investigation, indictment, prosecution, and sentencing. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartWater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartWater [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=synthetic+DNA+forensic+property+marking https://www.google.com/search?q=synthetic+DNA+forensic+prope...

11 points by graderjs 4y ago

ubj 4y ago

Obligatory links to YouTuber Mark Rober's quest for vengeance against porch pirates: * Glitter Bomb 1.0 vs Porch Pirates: https://youtu.be/xoxhDk-hwuo https://youtu.be/xoxhDk-hwuo * Glitter Bomb 2.0 vs Porch Pirates: https://youtu.be/a_TSR_v07m0 https://youtu.be/a_TSR_v07m0 * Glitter Bomb 3.0 vs Porch Pirates: https://youtu.be/h4T_LlK1VE4 https://youtu.be/h4T_LlK1VE4 * Exploding Glitter Bomb 4.0 vs Package Thieves: https://youtu.be/3c584TGG7jQ https://youtu.be/3c584TGG7jQ * Car Thieves vs the Final Glitter Bomb 5.0: https://youtu.be/iWeu2dxHRDg https://youtu.be/iWeu2dxHRDg

anononaut 4y ago
Magnificent!
syspec 4y ago
Weren't these found to be fake? I remember a whole controversy about it
- ubj 4y ago

tibbydudeza 4y ago

Here we either collect packages from a distribution place or a courier will hand delivery and have somebody sign for the delivery - leaving a package on a porch is rather baffling.

thehappypm 4y ago
It’s much faster. So, they need fewer trucks, fewer drivers. It appears to be cheaper to let some packages get stolen and eat that cost than it would be to slow down deliveries.
- tibbydudeza 4y ago
  Point taken - just shrinkage in the system or no Amazon Prime.

avgDev 4y ago

Allegedly. I know people who stole their own packages, the 2nd item they just resold.

mox1 4y ago

Is this just an Amazon ad / puff-piece ? The retired Police officer recommends "Amazon key" as his first defense. Then after that he recommends Amazon locker. Lastly the officer recommends a Ring camera. Not a video camera or video doorbell, but a "Ring". The article then goes on to give you an exact link for signing up to Amazon key and mentions Prime members. The pictures are from a Ring camera. The word Amazon appears like 5 times in the article.....

phone8675309 4y ago

I never understood the historical practice of cutting off the hands of recidivist petty thieves until porch pirates started stealing my packages. Now I'm fully onboard.

yourapostasy 4y ago
I wonder if there are any statistical correlations between an increase in porch pirates and other crime? Also, I wonder if the Glitter Bomb lessons can be applied using a DNA forensic property marking system to secure nearly 100% conviction rates and fast response by law enforcement seeking to juice their arrest-to-conviction metrics. Might have to leave an actual Amazon delivery in the bait box to secure proof of harm in court? Instead of only spraying glitter, also spray the DNA marker and live narrowcast both GPS and an OpenHaystack transmitter to law enforcement to direct them in real-time to the right door to investigate.
- feet 4y ago
  What exactly is a "DNA marker"?
  - yourapostasy 4y ago
    Synthetically-manufactured uniqely coded DNA that is sprayed onto perpetrators of a crime linking them from days to months to a location and/or property. An example of one of many companies in the space [1]. A search that opens up some rabbit holes [2]. More needs to be done in the space to develop it (there are several defeats I can think of as long as a perpetrator is aware such a system is in use), but it is still a promising channel to speed up investigation, indictment, prosecution, and sentencing. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartWater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartWater [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=synthetic+DNA+forensic+property+marking https://www.google.com/search?q=synthetic+DNA+forensic+prope...