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There is a point where this is reasonable (no one has a right to let dead animals rot on their residential property), but it's also possible your sensitive nose

There is a point where this is reasonable (no one has a right to let dead animals rot on their residential property), but it's also possible your sensitive nose is ruining your neighbor's ability to enjoy his property. You're free to join a homeowner's association which will micromanage not only smells but also the location of your garbage can.

mschuster91 4y ago
> sensitive nose Last time I checked, fuel and many other fluids in cars are carcinogens or otherwise toxic. Leave that shit out of any place that isn't adequately equipped to clean it up. > You're free to join a homeowner's association which will micromanage not only smells but also the location of your garbage can. Here in Germany, that is usually governed by city codes anyway, no need for an HOA - trash cans usually have to be in a separate room indoors (for large complexes) or in an enclosure (e.g. [1], the first grab off of Google). We don't need micromanaging HOAs (and don't have them outside of condo complexes), because decades upon decades of experience have led to a democratically agreed set of basic rules - in this case: society has democratically decided that they don't want trash bins standing around in the open, partially because that's a fucking eyesore, partially because free-standing bins just attract vermin and pests. [1] https://www.vidaxl.de/e/vidaxl-mulltonnenbox-fur-3-tonnen-207x775x115-cm-edelstahl/8720286334911.html https://www.vidaxl.de/e/vidaxl-mulltonnenbox-fur-3-tonnen-20...
- hyperpape 4y ago
  Your own choice of example was the smell from welding. With regard to releasing toxic or environmentally damaging chemicals, you are on much more solid ground.
  - mschuster91 4y ago
    For what it's worth, it would be better if people knew how to weld and how to prepare a workpiece for welding. Back when I worked on cars myself at a local hobby garage (common here in Germany, sort of the car equivalent of a makerspace), the amount of people who didn't strip off plastic attachments or removed paint was so excessive that my favourite shop imposed a rule "idiots setting stuff on fire or causing excessive smoking while welding have to bring in a crate of beer". I definitely would not want to live next to someone learning how to use a welding rig.
- yellowapple 4y ago
  > Last time I checked, fuel and many other fluids in cars are carcinogens or otherwise toxic. Judging by the sheer number of Prop 65 warnings slapped on everything in California, that's hardly unique to automobiles. Besides, it's already illegal to dump such fluids. Enforce the existing reasonable laws instead of introducing new unreasonable ones.

mschuster91 4y ago

> sensitive nose Last time I checked, fuel and many other fluids in cars are carcinogens or otherwise toxic. Leave that shit out of any place that isn't adequately equipped to clean it up. > You're free to join a homeowner's association which will micromanage not only smells but also the location of your garbage can. Here in Germany, that is usually governed by city codes anyway, no need for an HOA - trash cans usually have to be in a separate room indoors (for large complexes) or in an enclosure (e.g. [1], the first grab off of Google). We don't need micromanaging HOAs (and don't have them outside of condo complexes), because decades upon decades of experience have led to a democratically agreed set of basic rules - in this case: society has democratically decided that they don't want trash bins standing around in the open, partially because that's a fucking eyesore, partially because free-standing bins just attract vermin and pests. [1] https://www.vidaxl.de/e/vidaxl-mulltonnenbox-fur-3-tonnen-207x775x115-cm-edelstahl/8720286334911.html https://www.vidaxl.de/e/vidaxl-mulltonnenbox-fur-3-tonnen-20...

hyperpape 4y ago
Your own choice of example was the smell from welding. With regard to releasing toxic or environmentally damaging chemicals, you are on much more solid ground.
- mschuster91 4y ago
  For what it's worth, it would be better if people knew how to weld and how to prepare a workpiece for welding. Back when I worked on cars myself at a local hobby garage (common here in Germany, sort of the car equivalent of a makerspace), the amount of people who didn't strip off plastic attachments or removed paint was so excessive that my favourite shop imposed a rule "idiots setting stuff on fire or causing excessive smoking while welding have to bring in a crate of beer". I definitely would not want to live next to someone learning how to use a welding rig.
yellowapple 4y ago
> Last time I checked, fuel and many other fluids in cars are carcinogens or otherwise toxic. Judging by the sheer number of Prop 65 warnings slapped on everything in California, that's hardly unique to automobiles. Besides, it's already illegal to dump such fluids. Enforce the existing reasonable laws instead of introducing new unreasonable ones.