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What irks me is that this is how a lot of people I've met approach presidential candidates. They gloss over important things like how Ron Paul is planning to i

by atarian 15y ago

What irks me is that this is how a lot of people I've met approach presidential candidates. They gloss over important things like how Ron Paul is planning to implement $1 trillion in budget cuts, a reduction in the cabinet, etc and go straight for his personal beliefs which he doesn't allow to dictate his political career. He even voted against the ban on gay marriages.

panaceafatali 15y ago
Which ban? All I can find is his support of DOMA, and the Marriage Protection Act, which would have prevented Federal judges from ruling on the constitutionality of DOMA.
- nirvana 15y ago
  I've seen assertions he supported the DOMA, but he didn't vote for it, so he couldn't have supported it very much. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll316.xml http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll316.xml Further, he supports human rights in virtually every context, including marriage. Paul wants the government out of the marriage business. Obama wants the government in the marriage business, AND he wants to keep gay marriage banned. Thus if support of DOMA is your criteria, then Paul is a better choice than Obama. Of course this has nothing to do with SOPA. It's just the leftist talking points for bashing Paul whenever his name comes up so we have to respond to these insinuations.
  - panaceafatali 15y ago
    Yet he co-sponsored a bill that would make DOMA impossible to get rid of in any way. That doesn't count as much as voting for it? Also: "If I were in Congress in 1996, I would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act," So there's why he didn't vote for it or against it, or even abstain. http://web.archive.org/web/20070207225148/http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2004/cr093004.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20070207225148/http://www.house.g...
tempire 15y ago
True enough. This is the pattern set by other candidates as long as I've been paying attention. It's why people don't get Paul, because he's not trying to push his views on other people by mandating them into law. As such, he's likely the only non-bigoted GOP candidate, because he's not out to force his opinions on others. You can't really blame people - it's just such a foreign concept, so it takes time to really sink in.

by atarian 15y ago

panaceafatali 15y ago

Which ban? All I can find is his support of DOMA, and the Marriage Protection Act, which would have prevented Federal judges from ruling on the constitutionality of DOMA.

nirvana 15y ago
I've seen assertions he supported the DOMA, but he didn't vote for it, so he couldn't have supported it very much. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll316.xml http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll316.xml Further, he supports human rights in virtually every context, including marriage. Paul wants the government out of the marriage business. Obama wants the government in the marriage business, AND he wants to keep gay marriage banned. Thus if support of DOMA is your criteria, then Paul is a better choice than Obama. Of course this has nothing to do with SOPA. It's just the leftist talking points for bashing Paul whenever his name comes up so we have to respond to these insinuations.
- panaceafatali 15y ago
  Yet he co-sponsored a bill that would make DOMA impossible to get rid of in any way. That doesn't count as much as voting for it? Also: "If I were in Congress in 1996, I would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act," So there's why he didn't vote for it or against it, or even abstain. http://web.archive.org/web/20070207225148/http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2004/cr093004.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20070207225148/http://www.house.g...

tempire 15y ago

True enough. This is the pattern set by other candidates as long as I've been paying attention. It's why people don't get Paul, because he's not trying to push his views on other people by mandating them into law. As such, he's likely the only non-bigoted GOP candidate, because he's not out to force his opinions on others. You can't really blame people - it's just such a foreign concept, so it takes time to really sink in.