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“Refuse to update” ? If the device otherwise works well why should one do this?

• whynaut 4y ago
  > utterly broken
• sbuk 4y ago
  In this case, to prevent oneself being locked out of one’s device.
• mvanbaak 4y ago
  security updates are important. and on a mobile device that's connected it's really important.
  • mihaaly 4y ago
    it was so good if it was security update only and not f-ing up existing functionality - on top of poor security release fixes - and forcing on the user unrelated and never needed other things as well. this 'security' rasoning for update thing is a big fat lie! do security updates only then!
    • deleted 4y ago
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    • elzbardico 4y ago
      Most software nowadays is network centric and talk to other computers. Protocols evolve for reasons beyond security, and thus, updating your customer device is required to keep inter-operability
    • antihero 4y ago
      If they do security updates for obsolete versions of software this means a huge amount of resources testing and developing patches against it that could be spent improving current software.
      • mihaaly 4y ago
        Improving must mean here making even bigger and more complex pile of whatever, making it more vulnerable by complexity and new, barely tested or thought through new versions. We could live without that easily! They could divert resources from "improvements" easily then and consequently making the job of ensuring the quality of already sold vulnerable products to live up to the minimum standards! Testing much much less of existing and broadly distributed products by not making so many obsolete versions so rapidly, putting resources where it counts instead of flashy pile of superficial sh*t! Something truly and reliable useful at last!
    • acdha 4y ago
      Remember that in many cases security fixes involve architectural improvements. You can get those by installing the free system updates and those don’t break existing functionality so it’s understandable that they don’t double the workload by patching very old releases, especially since that’s paying more to have a slower phone with fewer features.
  • mistrial9 4y ago
    security is both real, and potentially an infinite excuse to require new purchases, new validation, new terms of services and anything else that the party in control deems 'required', at any interval they can get away with...
• jve 4y ago
  Well, to decrease performance.
• elzbardico 4y ago
  Because it is not a standalone computer but a computer which is permanently connected to the internet and where most software was built specifically for connected use cases or where non-connected use-cases don’t even make sense. So, unless you’re using your old iPhone like an early 90’s PC without a modem or any other kind of networking it is perfectly reasonable to expect you to update it if you want it to talk to cloud services
  • dzhiurgis 4y ago
    Nice segway into huge iOS gap - Lulu firewall -like ability to block apps and processes from internet access.
    • ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      Cool, but then what use is smartphone without internet access? It just becomes an oversized and inefficient clock. Especially, since on iPhones you can't easily sideload apps offline like you can on Android.
      • dzhiurgis 4y ago
        It's a normal security practice to prevent untrusted apps from calling home. The problem is Apple thinks you are ok to trust them after reviewing their binary code for 120 seconds.
      • hn92726819 4y ago
        They aren't saying disable internet for the whole phone. Just a select few apps. Some android roms have this feature (or rooted users can use AFwall) and it's amazing. You can install a game, block its internet, and the game can't track you, show you annoying ads, or show you full screen newsletters fetched from the internet. Edit: you already can disable internet for the whole phone just leave it on airplane mode for eternity. But as you said, the use cases are quite limited
      • cesarb 4y ago
        > Cool, but then what use is smartphone without internet access? It just becomes an oversized and inefficient clock. A phone. You can make and receive calls with it. And also SMS.