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> In private hands our choice is limited, toxicity is rewarded, rage is called engagement, public trust is corroded, and basic human decency is often an afterth
by hnarn 4y ago
> In private hands our choice is limited, toxicity is rewarded, rage is called engagement, public trust is corroded, and basic human decency is often an afterthought.
Sure. But why is it so? Have these "private hands" somehow made people into toxic, rage-filled robots lacking "human decency"? Or, were people already like this before they started using social media, and these "private hands" really did nothing but follow what people craved and rewarded with their attention?
It's easy to paint Big Social Corp as evil, and yeah, of course they are to some extent. They literally just do what makes them the most revenue in ads, without any regard for how that affects their users. But I think we're missing something when we absolve individual human beings from responsibility, and paint them out to be mere victims of the siren song of social media.
There's an old web comic that I'm sure a lot of you have seen, that simply makes the claim that:
> Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Total Fuckwad
I am a fierce proponent of the right to anonymity online -- BUT -- social media is but a subset of "the Internet". There is nothing saying that anonymity must be, or even should, be the norm on any web platform regardless of its purpose.
I have no concrete suggestion on how to do it, but personally I'm quite confident that if you remove "anonymity" out of the fuckwad equation, you don't eliminate the problem, but you decimate it to a degree where it's barely a problem anymore.
I very much doubt this is the road Mozilla will choose to take, since it seems completely opposed to everything they stand for, but I'd like to reiterate that you can be a privacy proponent without demanding privacy everywhere, just like you can be a proponent of free speech without being a proponent for "the right to be heard".
- berniedurfee 4y agoI think LinkedIn is a good example of what you would get without anonymity… and it’s a pretty bleak and boring landscape. Unfortunately, I don’t think there is a middle ground for public forums. Humans seem to be hardwired to be awful when given the opportunity. The days of cable TV and email list flamewars seem pretty quaint right about now.
- hnarn 4y ago> I think LinkedIn is a good example of what you would get without anonymity I think that would be true if the only characteristic of LinkedIn was that it's "not anonymous", but that's not true. LinkedIn is very explicitly a "professional network" which means that the implicit expectation is that you modify your behavior in the same way as you would in a professional setting. At least in theory, I think that a social network similar to Twitter or Facebook that contained only verified profiles of real people is something that would make me interested in signing up. Whether that's true for people in general though, I have no idea.
- saint_fiasco 4y agoDidn't Google+ try to do that already? I remember they banned users with fake names, or with real names that looked like they might be fake.
- berniedurfee 4y agoThey did and people freaked out. Other than mismanagement, I think that move is one that doomed the service. Would have been interesting to see it through.
- hnarn 4y agoI don’t agree that “banning users with fake names” is functionally equivalent to “ensure all users have verified identities”.