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No, I think they’ve won this cycle in the same way that Windows and Google did theirs. The only issue for them is that it’s still text editing under the hood, w

by maegul 4y ago

No, I think they’ve won this cycle in the same way that Windows and Google did theirs. The only issue for them is that it’s still text editing under the hood, which is a fundamental enough of a tool that there’ll always be alternatives scratching away at their supremacy (unlike an operating system for instance). So copilot and good LSP servers are probably big factors in their dominance. Still seems like a market shift would be required to take them down, like an AI revolution, but then MS seem to be on top of that so far. Perhaps if CI/CD is reinvented in a wonderful way with mass adoption, integrated code editing and manipulation could reshape the text editor.

rjzzleep 4y ago
lsp actually came out of the .net opensource community. omnisharp to be exact. It's funny how much is actually attributed to MS in this case, when most of VSCode did not originate there. There's no reason at all why VSCode has "won" the same way Windows and Google did. VSCode fixed two main issues of Atom. If anything it was a natural evolution. The name was just a smart marketing play. There are some things that are exclusive VSCode but most of the important pieces are not. I think the main reason there is no direct VSCode competitor is because there is currently no need to. People that use their own respective flavours of editors have almost the same features in their own respective features, so what's the point in mirroring it?
- maegul 4y ago
  Fair. Like I said, it’s a text editor and only does things so much “better” than their competitors who are likely to retain their user bases to some extent. We seem to generally agree on this. But the ecosystem effects of GitHub integration and getting into the browser as is the case with the top parent post and being the home for LSP servers seem to me like enough of an “embrace” to secure a “win” however lesser it is than Google’s. I’m not a user though, just my view from the outside.

by maegul 4y ago

rjzzleep 4y ago

lsp actually came out of the .net opensource community. omnisharp to be exact. It's funny how much is actually attributed to MS in this case, when most of VSCode did not originate there. There's no reason at all why VSCode has "won" the same way Windows and Google did. VSCode fixed two main issues of Atom. If anything it was a natural evolution. The name was just a smart marketing play. There are some things that are exclusive VSCode but most of the important pieces are not. I think the main reason there is no direct VSCode competitor is because there is currently no need to. People that use their own respective flavours of editors have almost the same features in their own respective features, so what's the point in mirroring it?

maegul 4y ago
Fair. Like I said, it’s a text editor and only does things so much “better” than their competitors who are likely to retain their user bases to some extent. We seem to generally agree on this. But the ecosystem effects of GitHub integration and getting into the browser as is the case with the top parent post and being the home for LSP servers seem to me like enough of an “embrace” to secure a “win” however lesser it is than Google’s. I’m not a user though, just my view from the outside.