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Was he wrong? Regardless, yes, he is. I am a marxist-leninist.

oblio 4y ago
Well, he is, depending on your perspective. For the developed countries, yes, there's a regression for the lower and middle classes. For developing countries, which are very much developing due to capitalism, there is a <<huge>> improvement in quality of life right now. I'd argue that life is improving for more people (in developing countries) than it's regressing (in developed countries).
- hulitu 4y ago
  >For developing countries, which are very much developing due to capitalism, there is a <<huge>> improvement in quality of life right now. And which are the coutries "which are very much developing due to capitalism" ?
  - oblio 4y ago
    Rephrasing that. Many developing countries are growing quickly due to capitalism. So, which developing countries are growing thank to capitalism? All of them. All the rising developing countries are rising thanks to capitalism. China, Vietnam, South Korea/Taiwan (already developed by now), Romania, Poland, Czechia, Botswana, etc.
- bjornsing 4y ago
  And perhaps that’s not only economically sensible but also morally just.
kodyo 4y ago
He certainly set a high bar for the blackest of reactions to things.
bladelessninja2 4y ago
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- VulgarExigency 4y ago
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  - bladelessninja2 4y ago
    Funny, but we are in an adult conversation now, you can't ignore facts with just some joke. Grow up.
the_third_wave 4y ago
It is a sad thing that you can state this without most people even twitching an eye while had you stated you were a national socialist everyone would shun you. The sad thing does not lie in the shunning of the national socialists but in the fact that its internationalist brethren in socialism are not treated in a similar fashion even though this ideology has destroyed far more lives than the former. Marxism-Leninism and its spin-offs - Stalinism, Maoism. Juche et al - deserve to be in the same corner as national socialism but alas, these ideologies thrive in places of education and as such children and students are mostly or only told of the evils of Nazism. I can see this happen at my daughter's school where they've focused a large part of their curriculum around just that, including a visit to Auschwitz. I proposed they'd also spend some time on studying Solidarność and its struggle against the Soviets given that they were in Poland where the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union took place but this was not to be.

Well, he is, depending on your perspective. For the developed countries, yes, there's a regression for the lower and middle classes. For developing countries, which are very much developing due to capitalism, there is a <<huge>> improvement in quality of life right now. I'd argue that life is improving for more people (in developing countries) than it's regressing (in developed countries).

hulitu 4y ago
>For developing countries, which are very much developing due to capitalism, there is a <<huge>> improvement in quality of life right now. And which are the coutries "which are very much developing due to capitalism" ?
- oblio 4y ago
  Rephrasing that. Many developing countries are growing quickly due to capitalism. So, which developing countries are growing thank to capitalism? All of them. All the rising developing countries are rising thanks to capitalism. China, Vietnam, South Korea/Taiwan (already developed by now), Romania, Poland, Czechia, Botswana, etc.
bjornsing 4y ago
And perhaps that’s not only economically sensible but also morally just.

kodyo 4y ago

He certainly set a high bar for the blackest of reactions to things.

bladelessninja2 4y ago

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VulgarExigency 4y ago
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- bladelessninja2 4y ago
  Funny, but we are in an adult conversation now, you can't ignore facts with just some joke. Grow up.

the_third_wave 4y ago

It is a sad thing that you can state this without most people even twitching an eye while had you stated you were a national socialist everyone would shun you. The sad thing does not lie in the shunning of the national socialists but in the fact that its internationalist brethren in socialism are not treated in a similar fashion even though this ideology has destroyed far more lives than the former. Marxism-Leninism and its spin-offs - Stalinism, Maoism. Juche et al - deserve to be in the same corner as national socialism but alas, these ideologies thrive in places of education and as such children and students are mostly or only told of the evils of Nazism. I can see this happen at my daughter's school where they've focused a large part of their curriculum around just that, including a visit to Auschwitz. I proposed they'd also spend some time on studying Solidarność and its struggle against the Soviets given that they were in Poland where the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union took place but this was not to be.