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I saw this a while ago and I'm confused about this issue. It seems like you can upgrade to a newer iOS version and activate just fine. Is there a specific reaso

I saw this a while ago and I'm confused about this issue. It seems like you can upgrade to a newer iOS version and activate just fine. Is there a specific reason this is not option?

MereInterest 4y ago
Because in the past, Apple has marked iOS versions as compatible even where the hardware performance isn’t sufficient for reasonable use. Since Apple also doesn’t support downgrades of iOS versions, users are reasonably wary at taking Apple at their word for compatibility.
- theshrike79 4y ago
  Just once, for one device. It was one of the iPad Airs I think. It had a way too high resolution display for the CPU and really suffered from OS updates. It's not a problem anymore since most Apple devices are ridiculously overpowered and they have separated iOS from iPadOS.
  - rekoil 4y ago
    Many people mistakenly attribute what the OS does when it detects a degraded battery as an example of this, since it appeared in an update and wasn't properly explained (and no opt-out was provided initially). It's hard to fault them honestly, most people don't understand how degraded batteries affect their device, they think it's just about how many hours the device lasts on a full charge, when in reality it's much more complex.
  - MereInterest 4y ago
    Nope, it was the main iPhone line. 2017: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2017/12/20/apple-iphone-kill-switch-ios-degrade-cripple-performance-battery/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2017/12/20/apple-iph... I’m also not sure why “just once” is supposed to buy back trust. They still don’t allow for iOS downgrades, so the underlying issue hasn’t been addressed.
    - theshrike79 4y ago
      Different case. That was Apple assuming that people would rather have a slower phone that worked instead of a fast phone that just randomly shut down. Took them like two weeks to release a patch where you can pick which option you like. As someone who had an iPhone that claimed to have 30-40% battery and then just shut down completely when trying to make a call, I really would've preferred the slowdown option. It was fixed by a 50€ new battery.
    - kaba0 4y ago
      This is literally a company doing something nice for a change (fixing old hardware’s bug that its aging battery can’t output the necessary output, so decrease the necessary voltage because a phone literally restarting in the middle of the day is just useless), though objectively with terrible PR getting hated for it. There was literally no malice here, a very serious bug that obsoleted an otherwise out-of-support device of their got fixed. Sure, the best option is the one that was later implemented (people can choose which option they prefer) thanks to governments(!), but let’s not sell this story as something else.
      - brokenmachine 4y ago
        That's the absurdly charitable interpretation, anyway.
  - cpsns 4y ago
    > Just once, for one device The Mini 2 was ruined by iOS 11. I was lucky that I was able to immediately downgrade back to iOS 10.
  - vetinari 4y ago
    Several times, not just once. iPhone 3G was made unusable by iOS 4.
- antihero 4y ago
  So they are supposed to just support infinity old versions?
Gigachad 4y ago
No, but that doesn’t make for an outrage YouTube video.
darren_ 4y ago
This upgrade will break any 32 bit iOS apps you might have on your device, and you have absolutely no recourse and downgrading is not permitted. I've lost access to several _paid_ apps due to this.
- antihero 4y ago
  How many apps are really still like this? Surely it would be better to pay a few quid to developers that keep their builds current? Or are you bothered because you can’t use a £1 app for over eight years or something?
  - pseudalopex 4y ago
    At least 1 they want to use. You assumed there are replacements. You assumed prices. Don't be rude.
jquery 4y ago
I assume the devices are stolen and upgrading them would essentially brick them.

I saw this a while ago and I'm confused about this issue. It seems like you can upgrade to a newer iOS version and activate just fine. Is there a specific reason this is not option?

MereInterest 4y ago

Because in the past, Apple has marked iOS versions as compatible even where the hardware performance isn’t sufficient for reasonable use. Since Apple also doesn’t support downgrades of iOS versions, users are reasonably wary at taking Apple at their word for compatibility.

theshrike79 4y ago
Just once, for one device. It was one of the iPad Airs I think. It had a way too high resolution display for the CPU and really suffered from OS updates. It's not a problem anymore since most Apple devices are ridiculously overpowered and they have separated iOS from iPadOS.
- rekoil 4y ago
  Many people mistakenly attribute what the OS does when it detects a degraded battery as an example of this, since it appeared in an update and wasn't properly explained (and no opt-out was provided initially). It's hard to fault them honestly, most people don't understand how degraded batteries affect their device, they think it's just about how many hours the device lasts on a full charge, when in reality it's much more complex.
- MereInterest 4y ago
  Nope, it was the main iPhone line. 2017: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2017/12/20/apple-iphone-kill-switch-ios-degrade-cripple-performance-battery/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2017/12/20/apple-iph... I’m also not sure why “just once” is supposed to buy back trust. They still don’t allow for iOS downgrades, so the underlying issue hasn’t been addressed.
  - theshrike79 4y ago
    Different case. That was Apple assuming that people would rather have a slower phone that worked instead of a fast phone that just randomly shut down. Took them like two weeks to release a patch where you can pick which option you like. As someone who had an iPhone that claimed to have 30-40% battery and then just shut down completely when trying to make a call, I really would've preferred the slowdown option. It was fixed by a 50€ new battery.
  - kaba0 4y ago
    This is literally a company doing something nice for a change (fixing old hardware’s bug that its aging battery can’t output the necessary output, so decrease the necessary voltage because a phone literally restarting in the middle of the day is just useless), though objectively with terrible PR getting hated for it. There was literally no malice here, a very serious bug that obsoleted an otherwise out-of-support device of their got fixed. Sure, the best option is the one that was later implemented (people can choose which option they prefer) thanks to governments(!), but let’s not sell this story as something else.
    - brokenmachine 4y ago
      That's the absurdly charitable interpretation, anyway.
- cpsns 4y ago
  > Just once, for one device The Mini 2 was ruined by iOS 11. I was lucky that I was able to immediately downgrade back to iOS 10.
- vetinari 4y ago
  Several times, not just once. iPhone 3G was made unusable by iOS 4.
antihero 4y ago
So they are supposed to just support infinity old versions?

Gigachad 4y ago

No, but that doesn’t make for an outrage YouTube video.

darren_ 4y ago

This upgrade will break any 32 bit iOS apps you might have on your device, and you have absolutely no recourse and downgrading is not permitted. I've lost access to several _paid_ apps due to this.

antihero 4y ago
How many apps are really still like this? Surely it would be better to pay a few quid to developers that keep their builds current? Or are you bothered because you can’t use a £1 app for over eight years or something?
- pseudalopex 4y ago
  At least 1 they want to use. You assumed there are replacements. You assumed prices. Don't be rude.

jquery 4y ago

I assume the devices are stolen and upgrading them would essentially brick them.