>>Quite a lot of the anti-Java, anti-abstraction, anti-complexity crowd seem to actually just be people who are one step above a sysadmin in their mental model

>>Quite a lot of the anti-Java, anti-abstraction, anti-complexity crowd seem to actually just be people who are one step above a sysadmin in their mental model of programming, don't see how large-scale programming is different from imperative scripting, don't understand that complex problems sometimes require complex/systematic solutions, and resist leaving their comfort zone. May be you are the one refusing to leave the comfort zone. Fairly large chunks of programming ecosystem has moved to Golang, Rust and even other JVM languages like Kotlin for a reason. Most Python programmers today are Java refugees too. Its just that the overall culture of Java is loaded with programmers who like to use senseless abuse of design patterns as some 'smartness signalling' mechanism. Endless layers and indirections to achieve even simplest of the tasks. Using something like Golang and Python feels instantly less stressful and liberating when you go from Java to these languages.