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I don't see how you prove your point. It's basic economics that, in the job market, supply and demand are the forces that set the amount of money any job will p

by judge2020 4y ago

I don't see how you prove your point. It's basic economics that, in the job market, supply and demand are the forces that set the amount of money any job will pay, so a job that anyone can do might pay $10 an hour, while a highly-specialized job might require paying $100 an hour to attract that smaller group of people to consider dedicating their skills to that job. None of that involves any of the attributes you've mentioned. And it's tough to believe you when you say that "money is not the mindset" then go on to say "money is just how we exchange our value for goods and services without making 10 trades to get what we want".

DoreenMichele 4y ago
One of the biggest risk factors for homelessness is being LGBTQ. Now explain that one by saying who gets hired or whatever has nothing to do with anything I said.
- judge2020 4y ago
  In a town of 1000 people, if 100 are homeless, and 25 are LGBTQ, that certainly does spell out that the town has a discrimination problem. However, that doesn't mean that homelessness is guaranteed if you're openly LGBTQ, nor does it mean that everyone who is homeless is LGBTQ. It just means that it's a big risk factor. So while discrimination of protected classes is still likely the biggest factor in homelessness in the US, it's not the only thing, and thus it's demonstrably false that "Poverty is not about money. It's about all the myriad ways we say 'Fuck you' to 'the wrong kind of people.'". If you solved discrimination overnight, we'd still have homelessness.
  - DoreenMichele 4y ago
    Homelessness is mostly a housing issue. But who ends up out in the cold in a world of plenty that distributes it such that "them that has, gets" has very much to do with who you are. It's more complicated than that and it's probably not worth the effort to try to discuss it. Your goal is merely to shoot me down, not understand my point.

DoreenMichele 4y ago

One of the biggest risk factors for homelessness is being LGBTQ. Now explain that one by saying who gets hired or whatever has nothing to do with anything I said.

judge2020 4y ago
In a town of 1000 people, if 100 are homeless, and 25 are LGBTQ, that certainly does spell out that the town has a discrimination problem. However, that doesn't mean that homelessness is guaranteed if you're openly LGBTQ, nor does it mean that everyone who is homeless is LGBTQ. It just means that it's a big risk factor. So while discrimination of protected classes is still likely the biggest factor in homelessness in the US, it's not the only thing, and thus it's demonstrably false that "Poverty is not about money. It's about all the myriad ways we say 'Fuck you' to 'the wrong kind of people.'". If you solved discrimination overnight, we'd still have homelessness.
- DoreenMichele 4y ago
  Homelessness is mostly a housing issue. But who ends up out in the cold in a world of plenty that distributes it such that "them that has, gets" has very much to do with who you are. It's more complicated than that and it's probably not worth the effort to try to discuss it. Your goal is merely to shoot me down, not understand my point.