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Also this is worth reading[1]. Paul seems to be directly linked to an anti-gay rhetoric that is leading part of his campaign. [1] http://2012.talkingpointsmemo

by llambda 15y ago

Also this is worth reading[1]. Paul seems to be directly linked to an anti-gay rhetoric that is leading part of his campaign. [1] http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/ron-paul-hired-anti-gay-activist-to-run-iowa-campaign.php http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/ron-paul-hired-ant... Edit: I'm curious to know why anyone would downvote this? When presented with direct evidence, is it really logical to immediately push it away? Oh well... To the commenter below, if you had read to the second paragraph of the article you would have found this: 'Paul’s Iowa chair, Drew Ivers, recently touted the endorsement of Rev. Phillip G. Kayser, a pastor at the Dominion Covenant Church in Nebraska who also draws members from Iowa, putting out a press release praising “the enlightening statements he makes on how Ron Paul’s approach to government is consistent with Christian beliefs.” But Kayser’s views on homosexuality go way beyond the bounds of typical anti-gay evangelical politics and into the violent fringe: he recently authored a paper arguing for criminalizing homosexuality and even advocated imposing the death penalty against offenders based on his reading of Biblical law.'

atarian 15y ago
I didn't downvote (I don't have enough points yet), but I can already see some problems with that article. For one, it's based on newsletters published 20 years ago which he's repeatedly told the media that he did not authorize to use his name. The only other thing that's trying to stick to Ron Paul in this article is completely based on hearsay. So no, it's not direct evidence. EDIT: I seriously hope you're not trying to tell me that Ron Paul is a terrible person because one of his supporters favors the death penalty.
- llambda 15y ago
  He doesn't "favor the death penalty" he calls for the execution of people based on their sexual preference in accordance with Biblical law. This man's endorsement was touted by Paul's Iowa campaign. So yes, I find that offensive and reprehensible; Paul should immediately repudiate the endorsement.
  - nirvana 15y ago
    You're lying. That's why you're being down voted.
    - llambda 15y ago
      It is not a lie. Rev. Kayser endorsed Ron Paul's campaign[1][2] he also advocates murdering homosexuals[3]. [1] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JXXloeP9fSYJ:www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/12/27/ron-paul-endorsed-by-eminent-pastor-rev-phil-kayser-ph-d/+http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/12/27/ron-paul-endorsed-by-eminent-pastor-rev-phil-kayser-ph-d/ http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JXXloeP... [2] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/phillip-kayser-ron-paul-gays-iowa-caucus-2012_n_1173338.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/phillip-kayser-ron-... [3] http://www.biblicalblueprints.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/DeathPenalty.pdf http://www.biblicalblueprints.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01... EDIT: In re to nirvana's misreading of my comments below: > To claim that Ron Paul endorses murdering homosexuals because some random religious guy who does, endorsed his campaign is a lie. I never said any such thing. I said that Paul, i.e. the Paul campaign is seemingly directly linked to anti-gay sentiment as evidenced by the endorsement of Rev. Kayser they touted on their website. That's repugnant. Also, I don't appreciate being called a liar: These aren't my opinions. They are confirmable facts. The campaign was endorsed by a person who wants to murder gays. This endorsement was featured on Paul's website. It's deplorable. I'm only sorry you don't feel the same way.
      - nirvana 15y ago
        To claim that Ron Paul endorses murdering homosexuals because some random religious guy who does, endorsed his campaign is a lie. That's like saying Ron Paul is pro-choice because I'm pro-choice.
        jules 15y ago
        You're putting words in his mouth. What llambda actually said is: 1. There is a religious guy who endorses murdering homosexuals. 2. This guy endorses Ron Paul's campaign. 3. Ron Paul's campaign is touting that endorsement.

by llambda 15y ago

atarian 15y ago

I didn't downvote (I don't have enough points yet), but I can already see some problems with that article. For one, it's based on newsletters published 20 years ago which he's repeatedly told the media that he did not authorize to use his name. The only other thing that's trying to stick to Ron Paul in this article is completely based on hearsay. So no, it's not direct evidence. EDIT: I seriously hope you're not trying to tell me that Ron Paul is a terrible person because one of his supporters favors the death penalty.

llambda 15y ago
He doesn't "favor the death penalty" he calls for the execution of people based on their sexual preference in accordance with Biblical law. This man's endorsement was touted by Paul's Iowa campaign. So yes, I find that offensive and reprehensible; Paul should immediately repudiate the endorsement.
- nirvana 15y ago
  You're lying. That's why you're being down voted.
  - llambda 15y ago
    It is not a lie. Rev. Kayser endorsed Ron Paul's campaign[1][2] he also advocates murdering homosexuals[3]. [1] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JXXloeP9fSYJ:www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/12/27/ron-paul-endorsed-by-eminent-pastor-rev-phil-kayser-ph-d/+http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/12/27/ron-paul-endorsed-by-eminent-pastor-rev-phil-kayser-ph-d/ http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JXXloeP... [2] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/phillip-kayser-ron-paul-gays-iowa-caucus-2012_n_1173338.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/phillip-kayser-ron-... [3] http://www.biblicalblueprints.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/DeathPenalty.pdf http://www.biblicalblueprints.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01... EDIT: In re to nirvana's misreading of my comments below: > To claim that Ron Paul endorses murdering homosexuals because some random religious guy who does, endorsed his campaign is a lie. I never said any such thing. I said that Paul, i.e. the Paul campaign is seemingly directly linked to anti-gay sentiment as evidenced by the endorsement of Rev. Kayser they touted on their website. That's repugnant. Also, I don't appreciate being called a liar: These aren't my opinions. They are confirmable facts. The campaign was endorsed by a person who wants to murder gays. This endorsement was featured on Paul's website. It's deplorable. I'm only sorry you don't feel the same way.
    - nirvana 15y ago
      To claim that Ron Paul endorses murdering homosexuals because some random religious guy who does, endorsed his campaign is a lie. That's like saying Ron Paul is pro-choice because I'm pro-choice.
      - jules 15y ago
        You're putting words in his mouth. What llambda actually said is: 1. There is a religious guy who endorses murdering homosexuals. 2. This guy endorses Ron Paul's campaign. 3. Ron Paul's campaign is touting that endorsement.