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it's bs. he had a 30 year career in politics, if he was really a racist, there'd be some video proof to support it of him actually saying this...or hell anythi

by vaksel 15y ago

it's bs. he had a 30 year career in politics, if he was really a racist, there'd be some video proof to support it of him actually saying this...or hell anything else to support that...but there isn't + then there is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8... the bottom line, is that if the worst thing that they'd been able to dig up about him, are some comments from ~20 years ago that weren't even written by him...then he is one of the cleanest politicians in generations.

rationalbeats 15y ago
I have a hard time accepting that answer. Those quotes were taken directly from these newsletters http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rXxdXLObxdk/TvFkFgQzpSI/AAAAAAAAFhI/7JTQdR7vC6k/s1600/Dr.%2BRon%2BPaul%2527s%2BFreedom%2BReport%252C%2BApril%252C%2B1978%2B-%2BPage%2B1%2B-%2BA%2BNon-Conspiratorial%2BPresident%252C%2BIf%2BWe%2BHad%2BOne.png http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rXxdXLObxdk/TvFkFgQzpSI/AAAAAAAAFh... It has his name, his face, and says by Ron Paul He also benefited financially for over 2 decades from these newsletters. You had to write a check to Ron Paul to get these newsletters example http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vT7kX8KDLI4/TvFnrfhhwVI/AAAAAAAAFk4/E3Byqoaj4Iw/s1600/Ron%2BPaul%2BPersonal%2BLetter%2B-%2BDear%2BSupporter%252C%2Bas%2Ba%2BPersonal%2BThank%2BYou%252C%2BIf%2BYou%2BSubscribe%2BBefore%2Bthe%2BPresidential%2BConvention%2Bon%2BSeptember%2B5%252C%2BYou%2BMay%2BHave%2BMy%2BNewsletter%2Bfor%2Ban%2BUnprecedented%2B50-Percent%2Boff%252C%2B49.50%2BRon.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vT7kX8KDLI4/TvFnrfhhwVI/AAAAAAAAFk... So as far as I am concerned, after viewing the physical evidence, I conclude Ron Paul made large sums of money from distributing and claiming at the time to write, hate speech, promoting misogyny, and promoting fringe conspiracy theories, in an effort to scare people into sending him money. Reminds me of how Glenn Beck operates. Ron Paul's excuses today lead me to conclude he is either lying, or completely incompetent, and would not have the ability to lead a Cabinet effectively. In other words unfit to serve as Commander-in-Chief. EDIT: I see the downvotes flying in. I provided evidence of the claim. Sorry to see his hero worship is so strong that people will ignore factual hard evidence. Kind of pathetic really. This reminds me of the circlejerks over at Reddit... thought the people over here were a few steps above that base level of ignorance.
- vaksel 15y ago
  let me put this into developer context: let's say you build a user generated content startup. It's one of the projects you built, so after a few months you forget it and go work on another startup. Then while you were 100% focused on your new startup, one of the users posts up some rant on your old one that you barely check. Should you be held responsible for something put up on a domain that's registered to your name? After all, you made a whole $2 off adsense clicks. How much money do you think a local ~town/county level newsletter makes anyways? Millions? Bottom line, is that one lapse of leadership/judgement/what have you is nothing compared to most people...and let's not forget that it was 20 years ago and he has been squeaky clean since then. Which isn't something you can say about any other politician....so either hold others to the same standard...or cut the guy some slack and focus on policy, especially considering the lack of "evidence" in this case.
nextparadigms 15y ago
While they are scrambling to pick something from 20 years ago that he didn't even write, there are many cases in which he actually came out against racism. It's amazing how that seems to not even matter, but a couple of sentences from a newsletter he didn't write 20 years ago, do. http://ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot.com/2011/12/unabridged-even-more-racially-charged.html http://ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot.com/2011/12/unabridg...
- mistermann 15y ago
  For example: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/12/race-baiting-and-ron-paul-actions-speak.html http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/12/race-bait... The new ad from Revolution PAC is pretty powerful. James Williams, a black man, talks about his efforts to get medical attention for his pregnant white wife at a Texas hospital in the 1970s. The crescendo comes when a young doctor named Ron Paul broke through the indifference of the staff to give them the help they needed. Their baby would be stillborn. And Paul paid their medical expenses. Then Williams extols the virtues of Paul — his honesty and willingness to take on the establishment.

by vaksel 15y ago

rationalbeats 15y ago

I have a hard time accepting that answer. Those quotes were taken directly from these newsletters http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rXxdXLObxdk/TvFkFgQzpSI/AAAAAAAAFhI/7JTQdR7vC6k/s1600/Dr.%2BRon%2BPaul%2527s%2BFreedom%2BReport%252C%2BApril%252C%2B1978%2B-%2BPage%2B1%2B-%2BA%2BNon-Conspiratorial%2BPresident%252C%2BIf%2BWe%2BHad%2BOne.png http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rXxdXLObxdk/TvFkFgQzpSI/AAAAAAAAFh... It has his name, his face, and says by Ron Paul He also benefited financially for over 2 decades from these newsletters. You had to write a check to Ron Paul to get these newsletters example http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vT7kX8KDLI4/TvFnrfhhwVI/AAAAAAAAFk4/E3Byqoaj4Iw/s1600/Ron%2BPaul%2BPersonal%2BLetter%2B-%2BDear%2BSupporter%252C%2Bas%2Ba%2BPersonal%2BThank%2BYou%252C%2BIf%2BYou%2BSubscribe%2BBefore%2Bthe%2BPresidential%2BConvention%2Bon%2BSeptember%2B5%252C%2BYou%2BMay%2BHave%2BMy%2BNewsletter%2Bfor%2Ban%2BUnprecedented%2B50-Percent%2Boff%252C%2B49.50%2BRon.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vT7kX8KDLI4/TvFnrfhhwVI/AAAAAAAAFk... So as far as I am concerned, after viewing the physical evidence, I conclude Ron Paul made large sums of money from distributing and claiming at the time to write, hate speech, promoting misogyny, and promoting fringe conspiracy theories, in an effort to scare people into sending him money. Reminds me of how Glenn Beck operates. Ron Paul's excuses today lead me to conclude he is either lying, or completely incompetent, and would not have the ability to lead a Cabinet effectively. In other words unfit to serve as Commander-in-Chief. EDIT: I see the downvotes flying in. I provided evidence of the claim. Sorry to see his hero worship is so strong that people will ignore factual hard evidence. Kind of pathetic really. This reminds me of the circlejerks over at Reddit... thought the people over here were a few steps above that base level of ignorance.

vaksel 15y ago
let me put this into developer context: let's say you build a user generated content startup. It's one of the projects you built, so after a few months you forget it and go work on another startup. Then while you were 100% focused on your new startup, one of the users posts up some rant on your old one that you barely check. Should you be held responsible for something put up on a domain that's registered to your name? After all, you made a whole $2 off adsense clicks. How much money do you think a local ~town/county level newsletter makes anyways? Millions? Bottom line, is that one lapse of leadership/judgement/what have you is nothing compared to most people...and let's not forget that it was 20 years ago and he has been squeaky clean since then. Which isn't something you can say about any other politician....so either hold others to the same standard...or cut the guy some slack and focus on policy, especially considering the lack of "evidence" in this case.

nextparadigms 15y ago

While they are scrambling to pick something from 20 years ago that he didn't even write, there are many cases in which he actually came out against racism. It's amazing how that seems to not even matter, but a couple of sentences from a newsletter he didn't write 20 years ago, do. http://ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot.com/2011/12/unabridged-even-more-racially-charged.html http://ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot.com/2011/12/unabridg...

mistermann 15y ago
For example: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/12/race-baiting-and-ron-paul-actions-speak.html http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/12/race-bait... The new ad from Revolution PAC is pretty powerful. James Williams, a black man, talks about his efforts to get medical attention for his pregnant white wife at a Texas hospital in the 1970s. The crescendo comes when a young doctor named Ron Paul broke through the indifference of the staff to give them the help they needed. Their baby would be stillborn. And Paul paid their medical expenses. Then Williams extols the virtues of Paul — his honesty and willingness to take on the establishment.