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Is there a way to pin a version of the tool with this? For me, the biggest problem with Nix is that version pinning is not easy, actually it is complex.

by mrath 4y ago

flylikeabanana 4y ago
Pinning is first-class with the new flake method. When you create a flake, a corresponding flake.lock is created, similar to lock files in other languages. There's even a dedicated command now to upgrade the dependencies declared in a flake.
- mrath 4y ago
  Yes, I think I get that. But it is not easy to pin on different packages. For example if I want golang 1.18, node 12, I need to find the commit corresponding to those and add them. I mean it is possible but not as easy as it should be.
  - Smaug123 4y ago
    There's often a bunch of different versions in nixpkgs. For example, postgres currently has 11 through 15 available (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e7f345ca81f4f5513c4e73f3f7b3a3d045f74845/pkgs/servers/sql/postgresql/default.nix#L209 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e7f345ca81f4f5513c4e73...). Nodejs has 14, 16, 18, and 19 (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e7f345ca81f4f5513c4e73f3f7b3a3d045f74845/pkgs/development/web/nodejs/v14.nix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e7f345ca81f4f5513c4e73...).
  - thomastjeffery 4y ago
    Finding a way to install a specific version - not git commit or git tag, version - of a package is the problem. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/93327 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/93327 Nix before flakes used channels, each with a flat global namespace. Flakes are intended to sit inside the git repo, so that's even less discoverable. Nix solves practically every technical problem, but has terrible UX and documentation.
jljljl 4y ago
Hello! When you add packages with Devbox add, we automatically pin your devbox.json to a specific commit in the Nix store. This ensures that any developer who uses your devbox.json will get the same packages that you do. You can read more about how it works here: https://www.jetpack.io/devbox/docs/guides/pinning_packages/ https://www.jetpack.io/devbox/docs/guides/pinning_packages/
- mrath 4y ago
  I guess that only pins tools by nixpkgs version, or does it have capability to pin by exact version of tools like say go 1.18, pg 12, node 16 etc?
  - SuperSandro2000 4y ago
    No, because older software versions are dropped often rather quickly, especially if they are not maintained by upstream anymore, to reduce required maintaince work on them.

Is there a way to pin a version of the tool with this? For me, the biggest problem with Nix is that version pinning is not easy, actually it is complex.

by mrath 4y ago

Is there a way to pin a version of the tool with this? For me, the biggest problem with Nix is that version pinning is not easy, actually it is complex.

flylikeabanana 4y ago

Pinning is first-class with the new flake method. When you create a flake, a corresponding flake.lock is created, similar to lock files in other languages. There's even a dedicated command now to upgrade the dependencies declared in a flake.

mrath 4y ago
Yes, I think I get that. But it is not easy to pin on different packages. For example if I want golang 1.18, node 12, I need to find the commit corresponding to those and add them. I mean it is possible but not as easy as it should be.
- Smaug123 4y ago
  There's often a bunch of different versions in nixpkgs. For example, postgres currently has 11 through 15 available (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e7f345ca81f4f5513c4e73f3f7b3a3d045f74845/pkgs/servers/sql/postgresql/default.nix#L209 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e7f345ca81f4f5513c4e73...). Nodejs has 14, 16, 18, and 19 (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e7f345ca81f4f5513c4e73f3f7b3a3d045f74845/pkgs/development/web/nodejs/v14.nix https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/e7f345ca81f4f5513c4e73...).
- thomastjeffery 4y ago
  Finding a way to install a specific version - not git commit or git tag, version - of a package is the problem. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/93327 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/93327 Nix before flakes used channels, each with a flat global namespace. Flakes are intended to sit inside the git repo, so that's even less discoverable. Nix solves practically every technical problem, but has terrible UX and documentation.

jljljl 4y ago

Hello! When you add packages with Devbox add, we automatically pin your devbox.json to a specific commit in the Nix store. This ensures that any developer who uses your devbox.json will get the same packages that you do. You can read more about how it works here: https://www.jetpack.io/devbox/docs/guides/pinning_packages/ https://www.jetpack.io/devbox/docs/guides/pinning_packages/

mrath 4y ago
I guess that only pins tools by nixpkgs version, or does it have capability to pin by exact version of tools like say go 1.18, pg 12, node 16 etc?
- SuperSandro2000 4y ago
  No, because older software versions are dropped often rather quickly, especially if they are not maintained by upstream anymore, to reduce required maintaince work on them.