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"If a woman doesn’t have children by a certain age, then she will never have children" In what universe is this any of your concern? Not this one. And of cour

"If a woman doesn’t have children by a certain age, then she will never have children" In what universe is this any of your concern? Not this one. And of course it's tyrannical. People with little or no power (children, very young adults) are being forced, coerced, threatened by the power structures in their lives to make decisions they don't want to make. This is nearly a textbook definition of tyranny.

bloppe 4y ago
I would point out that it's of great concern to many women, often without any significant imposition by men.
- standardUser 4y ago
  I've never heard of a society that coerces women into not getting married and having children. And the imposition is by adult women and men against younger women and men, not simply men against women.
  - bloppe 4y ago
    I absolutely do not agree with stigmatizing child freedom, or any notion of "spinsterhood", I just think we can acknowledge that this is a common concern with or without coercion, which is hard to measure and hard even to define.
AmericanChopper 4y ago
> This sentiment seems to be near-universal in all but the most "progressive" societies (and even in some parts of those). In what universe is this sentiment any of your concern? I presume you imagine this one? I’m simply pointing out your mistake, which is that this is not simply some sentiment that can be modified with the appropriate social conditioning. It is the ordinary human reaction to undeniable biological realities. Nowhere in my comment did I suggest that this was an appropriate basis for actual tyrannical behaviour, so please don’t try to gaslight me into defending such a position, because it won’t work. As I have said elsewhere, even in the most progressive countries in the world, this is still a ubiquitous concern.
- standardUser 4y ago
  "It is the ordinary human reaction" Here is a novel idea that apparently never occurred to you, let's allow each ordinary human to have their own reaction.
  - HuwytGreen 4y ago

bloppe 4y ago

I would point out that it's of great concern to many women, often without any significant imposition by men.

standardUser 4y ago
I've never heard of a society that coerces women into not getting married and having children. And the imposition is by adult women and men against younger women and men, not simply men against women.
- bloppe 4y ago
  I absolutely do not agree with stigmatizing child freedom, or any notion of "spinsterhood", I just think we can acknowledge that this is a common concern with or without coercion, which is hard to measure and hard even to define.

AmericanChopper 4y ago

> This sentiment seems to be near-universal in all but the most "progressive" societies (and even in some parts of those). In what universe is this sentiment any of your concern? I presume you imagine this one? I’m simply pointing out your mistake, which is that this is not simply some sentiment that can be modified with the appropriate social conditioning. It is the ordinary human reaction to undeniable biological realities. Nowhere in my comment did I suggest that this was an appropriate basis for actual tyrannical behaviour, so please don’t try to gaslight me into defending such a position, because it won’t work. As I have said elsewhere, even in the most progressive countries in the world, this is still a ubiquitous concern.

standardUser 4y ago
"It is the ordinary human reaction" Here is a novel idea that apparently never occurred to you, let's allow each ordinary human to have their own reaction.
- HuwytGreen 4y ago