> a lot of leftists are probably deeply embarrassed and upset by what their movement has become. then what should they call themselves... they don't agree with

> a lot of leftists are probably deeply embarrassed and upset by what their movement has become. then what should they call themselves... they don't agree with "the left" yet they are part of the left? orthodox leftists? > They certainly aren't traditional liberals either, defined by support for liberty, individual rights, equality, ad tolerance. they sound like... conservatives?