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Not just "the past" but the idea it happens only in far away places like Kyrgyzstan. In London, Bradford and some other UK cities there is an underground proble

Not just "the past" but the idea it happens only in far away places like Kyrgyzstan. In London, Bradford and some other UK cities there is an underground problem around arranged marriages that sometimes escalates into kidnap, violence and even "honour killings". There's a shroud of silence around it because Britain is a "modern multi-cultural" country.

Joker_vD 4y ago
It's an ancient and noble tradition! And it's not like cultures should or even can change with times to adapt to new circumstances, should they? Get outta here with your cultural insensitivity! Speaking seriously, cultural tolerance can only exist to a certain extent because each culture has some things it absolutely (or almost absolutely) prohibits and disdains, so when two incompatible in such a way cultures meet, something has to give.
bennyelv 4y ago
Forgive me but that sounds rather sensationalist. If you have any evidence of this phenomenon I would be interested to see it. Not that arranged marriages sometimes happen and honour killings too (albeit extremely rarely), but that there’s a “shroud of silence” around such things when they do happen.
- nonrandomstring 4y ago
  A film to give you an insight is Banaz: An Honor Killing [1]. It's based around a real case. It's often hard for police or social workers to penetrate communities that close ranks to cover up cases like this. [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-VhFHkUoY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-VhFHkUoY
pydry 4y ago
There isnt a shroud of silence around it. The foreign office even has a forced marriage unit. There's plenty of help and support for it.
LarryMullins 4y ago
I don't think there's anything wrong with arranged marriages, just forced marriages. I know that sometimes it is both, however arranged-but-unforced marriages are more common.
- nonrandomstring 4y ago
  Agreed. They can work out very well if consensual. Indeed plenty of young British Asians are supportive of the traditions. It's when it goes wrong that the wheels fall off, and usually it's women who come under immense pressure or physical threat.

Joker_vD 4y ago

It's an ancient and noble tradition! And it's not like cultures should or even can change with times to adapt to new circumstances, should they? Get outta here with your cultural insensitivity! Speaking seriously, cultural tolerance can only exist to a certain extent because each culture has some things it absolutely (or almost absolutely) prohibits and disdains, so when two incompatible in such a way cultures meet, something has to give.

bennyelv 4y ago

Forgive me but that sounds rather sensationalist. If you have any evidence of this phenomenon I would be interested to see it. Not that arranged marriages sometimes happen and honour killings too (albeit extremely rarely), but that there’s a “shroud of silence” around such things when they do happen.

nonrandomstring 4y ago
A film to give you an insight is Banaz: An Honor Killing [1]. It's based around a real case. It's often hard for police or social workers to penetrate communities that close ranks to cover up cases like this. [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-VhFHkUoY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-VhFHkUoY

pydry 4y ago

There isnt a shroud of silence around it. The foreign office even has a forced marriage unit. There's plenty of help and support for it.

LarryMullins 4y ago

I don't think there's anything wrong with arranged marriages, just forced marriages. I know that sometimes it is both, however arranged-but-unforced marriages are more common.

nonrandomstring 4y ago
Agreed. They can work out very well if consensual. Indeed plenty of young British Asians are supportive of the traditions. It's when it goes wrong that the wheels fall off, and usually it's women who come under immense pressure or physical threat.