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I wonder if that's where Sacha Baron Cohen got his idea for Borat when kidnapping Pamela Anderson! He probably confused Kyrgyzstan with Kazakhstan!

AbrahamParangi 4y ago
You know, I gotta say that time has not been kind to Borat. The casual racism in the service of satire feels pretty dated today and not in a good way.
- meitham 4y ago
  I fully agree! My comment wasn't to endorse his movie but merely to suggest an origin for the main plot.
- codetrotter 4y ago
  The point of the Borat movie was to make fun of western peoples beliefs about foreign people and foreign cultures. In order to capture the audience, it uses satire. It takes ideas about foreign people, exaggerates these ideas even further, and investigates how people react to these exaggerated ideas. It turned out that even when taken to ridiculous extremes, many people (as seen in the movie) were willing to buy the idea that Borat was a real person from a foreign country. Borat does feel dated now. But perhaps that also means, the movie was effective on some level, in highlighting these beliefs? And perhaps even to help combat said beliefs?
  - zozbot234 4y ago
    What Borat did in his film was purposefully ridicule dirt poor people from Eastern Europe, making them look like bigoted idiots who might live in a makeshift barn with their cow and playing the whole thing for laughs. There was a lot about it that really was kinda despicable.
    - ipaddr 4y ago
      Wait until you hear about early sesame street
  - proshno 4y ago
prettyStandard 4y ago
It's there as well.
BlueTemplar 4y ago
I was expecting this practice to be widespread today. NOT !
int_19h 4y ago
It was a common practice in many traditional societies of Central Asia and the Caucasus.
- 082349872349872 4y ago
  cf Кавказская пленница, to understand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6amCG2KHlRg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6amCG2KHlRg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping,_Caucasian_Style https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping,_Caucasian_Style but note also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_of_the_Caucasus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_of_the_Caucasus
emodendroket 4y ago
They're both Central Asian countries so it seems plausible that they would both have a similar custom. The reference seems a bit in poor taste given the content of the article though.

AbrahamParangi 4y ago

You know, I gotta say that time has not been kind to Borat. The casual racism in the service of satire feels pretty dated today and not in a good way.

meitham 4y ago
I fully agree! My comment wasn't to endorse his movie but merely to suggest an origin for the main plot.
codetrotter 4y ago
The point of the Borat movie was to make fun of western peoples beliefs about foreign people and foreign cultures. In order to capture the audience, it uses satire. It takes ideas about foreign people, exaggerates these ideas even further, and investigates how people react to these exaggerated ideas. It turned out that even when taken to ridiculous extremes, many people (as seen in the movie) were willing to buy the idea that Borat was a real person from a foreign country. Borat does feel dated now. But perhaps that also means, the movie was effective on some level, in highlighting these beliefs? And perhaps even to help combat said beliefs?
- zozbot234 4y ago
  What Borat did in his film was purposefully ridicule dirt poor people from Eastern Europe, making them look like bigoted idiots who might live in a makeshift barn with their cow and playing the whole thing for laughs. There was a lot about it that really was kinda despicable.
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    Wait until you hear about early sesame street
- proshno 4y ago

prettyStandard 4y ago

It's there as well.

BlueTemplar 4y ago

I was expecting this practice to be widespread today. NOT !

int_19h 4y ago

It was a common practice in many traditional societies of Central Asia and the Caucasus.

082349872349872 4y ago
cf Кавказская пленница, to understand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6amCG2KHlRg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6amCG2KHlRg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping,_Caucasian_Style https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping,_Caucasian_Style but note also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_of_the_Caucasus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_of_the_Caucasus

emodendroket 4y ago

They're both Central Asian countries so it seems plausible that they would both have a similar custom. The reference seems a bit in poor taste given the content of the article though.