I don't want to start a flame war, but I don't think there are "pro-complexity" and "anti-complexity" sides in programming debates, but really different views o

I don't want to start a flame war, but I don't think there are "pro-complexity" and "anti-complexity" sides in programming debates, but really different views on where that complexity should be placed. Is a complex language unnecessary and design patterns are enough, or are design patterns symptoms of a language that's not powerful enough? I hope nobody is adding complexity for its own sake, at least.