Point taken, there are fanboys and cultists. I'd say most Apple users though are not that way. Still, whenever you try to have an open discussion about Apple, c

Point taken, there are fanboys and cultists. I'd say most Apple users though are not that way. Still, whenever you try to have an open discussion about Apple, conflations start early and points get dismissed merely because you happen to own, maybe even enjoy using, an Apple product. The real trouble starts when it has influence outside Apple-ish discussions. Based on my experience on site in some firms or contexts, the moment I get my MacBook out is when I am awarded some Godwin-esque point. Sometimes you can actually hear people sheeshing or sharing something along the lines of "Look, he's one of them". Somehow trust erodes, and points - well received beforehand - about anything going even mildly against the client's preconceived idea of how the project at hand would fare get dismissed on the most shady grounds. There's an interesting group effect in this subtle (sometimes not so) behavior.