> Following the logic in the article That was not an article. It was an advertisement. Logic of advertising is distinct from normal everyday logic. GP is maki

> Following the logic in the article That was not an article. It was an advertisement. Logic of advertising is distinct from normal everyday logic. GP is making a point based on experience that maps well to my experience. Your entire team is committed to quality, and this includes stakeholders which express their commitment by treating Q/A as a first-class element of a product development process. Ideal setup imho requires a somewhat adversarial -- think Red Queen in genetic algos -- relationship between devs and q/a; and that the Q/A team and product team do -not- have the same manager. Treat Q/A as 'internal affairs' in a police department. A fundamental necessity as developers also have a 'code of silence' regarding software misdeeds. tldr;/ remember: even a lousy underwear gets to be inspected by Q/A.