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In the US, the police (and people not involved in the protests) will happily beat you up, run you over, or shoot and kill you for disruptive protests.

AYBABTME 4y ago
I mean, they won't just happily do _all_ of that. You're exaggerating a bit and using extreme cases as if they were the norm. In particular you may say this with a straight face only if you're unaware of how this actually is the common reality of other countries. We've all heard of cases of police running over crowds in some circumstances, or of the odd shooting (actually when?). But that's not what the average protester in the US will realistically, honestly deal with on the average protest.
- sophacles 4y ago
  I've participated in quite a bit of peaceful protesting. I've never been shot at, but the number of times I've been teargassed for being in a park or on a sidewalk during the "permitted hours" and in the "designated zone" is much higher than the expected 0.
- Maxious 4y ago
  At least 830 documented incidents in 2020 including over 140 police violence incidents against journalists specifically. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_violence_incidents_during_George_Floyd_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_violence_incide... There have been 104 incidents of vehicles driving into protests between May 27 and September 27, 2020, with two fatalities in that time period https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vehicle-ramming_incidents_during_George_Floyd_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vehicle-ramming_incide...
oneoff786 4y ago
While police violence is a problem, this comment is wildly off base.
- thrower_away 4y ago
  I don't think it's wildly off base: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS-RWsl7l5c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS-RWsl7l5c
  - oneoff786 4y ago
    This is a noteworthy outlier that received significant criticism. It is not normative. And while pepper spray is non trivial, it is a far cry from: > happily beat you up, run you over, or shoot and kill you for disruptive protests.
sophacles 4y ago
Be fair. They'll do that for peaceful non-disruptive protests. Usually the term riot is applied after the cops start tear-gassing and the news can re-frame footage of people running away as "dangerous rioters". Fun fact: most people arrested at protests end up arrested because they try to follow police instructions to disperse. The police keep directing them into a closed off area (aka bottling) and then arrest them in for failure to disperse.

AYBABTME 4y ago

I mean, they won't just happily do _all_ of that. You're exaggerating a bit and using extreme cases as if they were the norm. In particular you may say this with a straight face only if you're unaware of how this actually is the common reality of other countries. We've all heard of cases of police running over crowds in some circumstances, or of the odd shooting (actually when?). But that's not what the average protester in the US will realistically, honestly deal with on the average protest.

sophacles 4y ago
I've participated in quite a bit of peaceful protesting. I've never been shot at, but the number of times I've been teargassed for being in a park or on a sidewalk during the "permitted hours" and in the "designated zone" is much higher than the expected 0.
Maxious 4y ago
At least 830 documented incidents in 2020 including over 140 police violence incidents against journalists specifically. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_violence_incidents_during_George_Floyd_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_violence_incide... There have been 104 incidents of vehicles driving into protests between May 27 and September 27, 2020, with two fatalities in that time period https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vehicle-ramming_incidents_during_George_Floyd_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vehicle-ramming_incide...

oneoff786 4y ago

While police violence is a problem, this comment is wildly off base.

thrower_away 4y ago
I don't think it's wildly off base: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS-RWsl7l5c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS-RWsl7l5c
- oneoff786 4y ago
  This is a noteworthy outlier that received significant criticism. It is not normative. And while pepper spray is non trivial, it is a far cry from: > happily beat you up, run you over, or shoot and kill you for disruptive protests.

sophacles 4y ago

Be fair. They'll do that for peaceful non-disruptive protests. Usually the term riot is applied after the cops start tear-gassing and the news can re-frame footage of people running away as "dangerous rioters". Fun fact: most people arrested at protests end up arrested because they try to follow police instructions to disperse. The police keep directing them into a closed off area (aka bottling) and then arrest them in for failure to disperse.