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Personal anecdote: Am a Senior PM laid off from a Big-N tech company who has launched multiple 9 figure revenue generating products. The market, despite the e

by cgb223 4y ago

Personal anecdote: Am a Senior PM laid off from a Big-N tech company who has launched multiple 9 figure revenue generating products. The market, despite the economy and the time of year isn’t great, but it’s not terrible. I’ve had lots of first and second interviews and a surprising amount of final rounds given all of the above. That said most all of those came from recruiters reaching out as opposed to applying directly. Unlike a month ago, my LinkedIn is EMPTY in terms of recruiter messages. It’s been over a week since anyone’s reached out but I figure that’s a function of the time of year. To compare to Spring of this year when I was interviewing (while still employed) I had many, many, more recruiters reaching out than anything I’ve seen in the last 3 months, and the caliber of jobs was higher quality. It sucks being unemployed during the holidays and not getting the reach I had before. It’s a little scary, but I keep reminding myself that it’s that time of year with holidays, no budget, etc and it’ll get better in January (hopefully). I’m no 100x rockstar coder, but I’ve added real, quantifiable value at companies where it’s a real challenge to launch anything quickly and successfully. It’s not nearly as rosy a picture as the BBC presents. I hope it gets better soon.

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bdcravens 4y ago
Not discounting real issues going on in the economy, but most stuff grinds to a halt in December, even when things are rocking.
thatfrenchguy 4y ago
It's the week before Christmas, half the people are gone already, and of the half is not at 100% anymore. January will get better :)
dist1ll 4y ago
It's the end of the fiscal year. No one wants to drown in paper work during the holidays.
pnutjam 4y ago
I'm a linux sysadmin / devops guy who went through this recently. When I started looking, end of September, I had a ton of interest from recruiters who wanted to chat. I also applied to a ton of jobs. Week 2 looked a little sparse. By week 3 I was getting interviews daily. It took 6 weeks, but I ended up with about 6 solid offers and I turned down another 2 or 3 that wanted to make offers, or continue interview rounds. I landed an awesome job at the very end of November. Things will pick up in January, good luck.
devmunchies 4y ago
It's known that tech recruiting has its most active months in spring/summer. Its more in line with the school year[1] than the calendar year. [1]: probably because parents don't like big changes while their kids are on a schedule and because new grads, and possibly (on a more evolutionary-biological level) because people are more active after winter as they begin foraging/farming/building, venturing out, etc.
creaghpatr 4y ago
>Unlike a month ago, my LinkedIn is EMPTY in terms of recruiter messages. A lot of in-house recruiters may have been laid off during that time, so might not directly correlate with new job postings volume/quality (obviously still related though). On the upside, wherever you land, they are more likely to be investing thoughtfully rather than tacking on headcount.
sizzle 4y ago
Wait till everyone gets their Q1 bonus for a flood of job vacancies early next year.
dimal 4y ago
I noticed that the number of recruiter messages I get on LinkedIn was proportional to the number of replies I give to the messages in my inbox. When I'm active, I get more interest. Like, going from 0-1 new recruiter messages to 5-7 a week. Maybe I'm imagining things, but it would make sense that if you just have your profile set to "Looking for work" but you're not actually talking to anyone, you're sending a signal that you're not actively looking, and you're going to fall to the bottom of the pile. Send a few "Sorry for the delay in responding. $YOUR_PRODUCT sounds interesting. Can you tell me more," messages to the most recent messages in your inbox and see if it gets things unstuck.
- inkeddeveloper 4y ago
  LinkedIn says this is the case quite openly.
bearmode 4y ago
>Unlike a month ago, my LinkedIn is EMPTY in terms of recruiter messages. >It’s been over a week since anyone’s reached out but I figure that’s a function of the time of year. Funnily enough, for me in the UK my Linkedin inbox is fuller than it's been all year. I've had multiple messages and connection requests from recruiters today alone, and it's not even half 9 yet.

by cgb223 4y ago

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bdcravens 4y ago

Not discounting real issues going on in the economy, but most stuff grinds to a halt in December, even when things are rocking.

thatfrenchguy 4y ago

It's the week before Christmas, half the people are gone already, and of the half is not at 100% anymore. January will get better :)

dist1ll 4y ago

It's the end of the fiscal year. No one wants to drown in paper work during the holidays.

pnutjam 4y ago

I'm a linux sysadmin / devops guy who went through this recently. When I started looking, end of September, I had a ton of interest from recruiters who wanted to chat. I also applied to a ton of jobs. Week 2 looked a little sparse. By week 3 I was getting interviews daily. It took 6 weeks, but I ended up with about 6 solid offers and I turned down another 2 or 3 that wanted to make offers, or continue interview rounds. I landed an awesome job at the very end of November. Things will pick up in January, good luck.

devmunchies 4y ago

It's known that tech recruiting has its most active months in spring/summer. Its more in line with the school year[1] than the calendar year. [1]: probably because parents don't like big changes while their kids are on a schedule and because new grads, and possibly (on a more evolutionary-biological level) because people are more active after winter as they begin foraging/farming/building, venturing out, etc.

creaghpatr 4y ago

>Unlike a month ago, my LinkedIn is EMPTY in terms of recruiter messages. A lot of in-house recruiters may have been laid off during that time, so might not directly correlate with new job postings volume/quality (obviously still related though). On the upside, wherever you land, they are more likely to be investing thoughtfully rather than tacking on headcount.

sizzle 4y ago

Wait till everyone gets their Q1 bonus for a flood of job vacancies early next year.

dimal 4y ago

I noticed that the number of recruiter messages I get on LinkedIn was proportional to the number of replies I give to the messages in my inbox. When I'm active, I get more interest. Like, going from 0-1 new recruiter messages to 5-7 a week. Maybe I'm imagining things, but it would make sense that if you just have your profile set to "Looking for work" but you're not actually talking to anyone, you're sending a signal that you're not actively looking, and you're going to fall to the bottom of the pile. Send a few "Sorry for the delay in responding. $YOUR_PRODUCT sounds interesting. Can you tell me more," messages to the most recent messages in your inbox and see if it gets things unstuck.

inkeddeveloper 4y ago
LinkedIn says this is the case quite openly.

bearmode 4y ago

>Unlike a month ago, my LinkedIn is EMPTY in terms of recruiter messages. >It’s been over a week since anyone’s reached out but I figure that’s a function of the time of year. Funnily enough, for me in the UK my Linkedin inbox is fuller than it's been all year. I've had multiple messages and connection requests from recruiters today alone, and it's not even half 9 yet.