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> On the first level: there absolutely are women painters, photographers and artists, throughout history. Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun almost exclusively painted wom

> On the first level: there absolutely are women painters, photographers and artists, throughout history. Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun almost exclusively painted women and was a large influence on the depictions of women throughout the remainder of the 18th, the 19th and even 20th century. If you had to guess, what do you think the ratio is of men to women, in terms of well known artists in those time periods? > On the second level: outside observation is a valid truth, what one person sees is not the same as that person themselves sees. No one is denying that. The premise here is that other perspectives, or valid truths, were not seen because the observers were almost always men. Even passive observing can introduce biases, which is why we have things like double blind trials. Do you not believe it's interesting to try and imagine what art might look like from different perspectives?

dijit 4y ago
> Do you not believe it's interesting to try and imagine what art might look like from different perspectives? I do, actually, unfortunately the time has passed for those painters. We certainly have a lot of diverse representation in art these days, so fortunately it is no longer something I need to imagine.
- PierceJoy 4y ago
  > I do, actually, unfortunately the time has passed for those painters. The most famous piece of art is the modern world is the Mona Lisa. Historical art carries much more weight than modern art in almost all cases. Just like we continue to examine and analyze historical events/people/etc, I don't see why we wouldn't also do that with art.
  - dijit 4y ago
    Are you saying that this product allows us to analyse works of the past in new light? Because, We can't create new works of the past and we can't remix them to make something originally genuine with accurate intent. So... what is it you're saying exactly? I don't have a time machine.
    - PierceJoy 4y ago
      > Are you saying that this product allows us to analyse works of the past in new light? Both figuratively and literally, given that it allows you to control the lighting :) > Because, We can't create new works of the past and we can't remix them to make something originally genuine with accurate intent. I'm not sure what you mean by genuine, but changing the intent is the whole point. > So... what is it you're saying exactly? Exploring historical art from new perspectives is interesting and valuable.
      - ablatt89 4y ago
        > Exploring historical art from new perspectives is interesting and valuable. It's valuable to you, fine. And some people critique its premise and existence. Why do you get upset when people critique it? Why do you dismiss any criticism of feminist thought?
        PierceJoy 4y ago
        > And some people critique its premise and existence. And some people critique your critique. Why do you get upset when people critique you? Why do you dismiss any feminist thought?

dijit 4y ago

> Do you not believe it's interesting to try and imagine what art might look like from different perspectives? I do, actually, unfortunately the time has passed for those painters. We certainly have a lot of diverse representation in art these days, so fortunately it is no longer something I need to imagine.

PierceJoy 4y ago
> I do, actually, unfortunately the time has passed for those painters. The most famous piece of art is the modern world is the Mona Lisa. Historical art carries much more weight than modern art in almost all cases. Just like we continue to examine and analyze historical events/people/etc, I don't see why we wouldn't also do that with art.
- dijit 4y ago
  Are you saying that this product allows us to analyse works of the past in new light? Because, We can't create new works of the past and we can't remix them to make something originally genuine with accurate intent. So... what is it you're saying exactly? I don't have a time machine.
  - PierceJoy 4y ago
    > Are you saying that this product allows us to analyse works of the past in new light? Both figuratively and literally, given that it allows you to control the lighting :) > Because, We can't create new works of the past and we can't remix them to make something originally genuine with accurate intent. I'm not sure what you mean by genuine, but changing the intent is the whole point. > So... what is it you're saying exactly? Exploring historical art from new perspectives is interesting and valuable.
    - ablatt89 4y ago
      > Exploring historical art from new perspectives is interesting and valuable. It's valuable to you, fine. And some people critique its premise and existence. Why do you get upset when people critique it? Why do you dismiss any criticism of feminist thought?
      - PierceJoy 4y ago
        > And some people critique its premise and existence. And some people critique your critique. Why do you get upset when people critique you? Why do you dismiss any feminist thought?