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You've convinced me. $600 for a monitor stand is a complete steal.

by gjvc 4y ago

dijit 4y ago
I think you missed the part where I mentioned that it's not really meant to be a bargain, the bargain is the screen. The "luxury stand" is purely a fashion accessory, because anyone who would actually buy the stand is not buying the screen for it's intended purpose (or at least from the target demographic). It's like buying one of those artic polar watches that can go to 150M that's gold plated. The gold plating is not helping you in that situation, whoever is buying the gold plated edition of that watch is buying it as a fashion accessory, not as an expedition watch. If they want to part with their money: let them.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  Is the monitor stand advertised as a luxury good or as a basic necessity because maybe that is a source of confusion, especially if it's presented as a default accessory.
  - mlyle 4y ago
    It's a $5k display that's intended for pro-use. You can buy it with nothing, with a relatively cheap VESA adapter, or a stand for desktop use cases. The high-end display market is niche; using such a display with a stand to sit on a desk is even more niche. It's a very low volume stand but it also has to be relatively good in both form and function so that people don't whinge that they got what feels like a flimsy $300 monitor's stand for their $5k monitor. Who buys the stand? Unusual pro uses where they're better off with a stand than a VESA mount; and people who are just looking for the highest end "fanciest" monitor ever.
    - gjvc 4y ago
      > It's a $5k display that's intended for pro-use. You make a clear case, except paying 20% of the cost of the device for a stand that sits on the desk seems ridiculous to me.
      - philjohn 4y ago
        As has been stated ad nauseam (and you seem to be ignoring) it's a red herring. You instead spend $200 for the VESA adapter and put it on a monitor arm. Which is reusable for your next monitor (and the monitor after that, and the monitor after that etc. etc.) Heck, I can't remember the last monitor I had that I kept the stand - it goes back in the box, and into storage until the warranty expires and then it goes in the trash. The Monitor goes on a VESA mount arm.
        gjvc 4y ago
        The bully always accuses the the victim of what they themselves are guilty of. This chatter about VESA mount arms and if you buy them or not is irrelevant. The price of the monitor stand as stated by Apple what is being discussed.
      - mlyle 4y ago
        20% of the cost of the device for a stand is probably typical in actuality-- just it's usually bundled. If it seems ridiculous, don't buy it-- most of us would be using a monitor arm for a monitor like this. It has a nice 4 bar linkage, bearings, etc. It's intrinsically not cheap and is made in extraordinarily low quantities.
    - elzbardico 4y ago
      In other words. If you buy it to put it on a desk, you are probably the equivalent of a suburban dweller buying a Ram 3500 pickup with dual rear wheels. So, it is better this stand looks good and expensive because that's the whole point of your purchase.
      - mlyle 4y ago
        That's one reframing. Mine is simpler: * Apple realistically needs to provide a stand, even though most users in their target market won't use it * The target market is already small/niche * The stand has to be relatively nice * All in all, this means low quantity, high quality == very high cost.

You've convinced me. $600 for a monitor stand is a complete steal.

by gjvc 4y ago

You've convinced me. $600 for a monitor stand is a complete steal.

I think you missed the part where I mentioned that it's not really meant to be a bargain, the bargain is the screen. The "luxury stand" is purely a fashion accessory, because anyone who would actually buy the stand is not buying the screen for it's intended purpose (or at least from the target demographic). It's like buying one of those artic polar watches that can go to 150M that's gold plated. The gold plating is not helping you in that situation, whoever is buying the gold plated edition of that watch is buying it as a fashion accessory, not as an expedition watch. If they want to part with their money: let them.

Apocryphon 4y ago
Is the monitor stand advertised as a luxury good or as a basic necessity because maybe that is a source of confusion, especially if it's presented as a default accessory.
- mlyle 4y ago
  It's a $5k display that's intended for pro-use. You can buy it with nothing, with a relatively cheap VESA adapter, or a stand for desktop use cases. The high-end display market is niche; using such a display with a stand to sit on a desk is even more niche. It's a very low volume stand but it also has to be relatively good in both form and function so that people don't whinge that they got what feels like a flimsy $300 monitor's stand for their $5k monitor. Who buys the stand? Unusual pro uses where they're better off with a stand than a VESA mount; and people who are just looking for the highest end "fanciest" monitor ever.
  - gjvc 4y ago
    > It's a $5k display that's intended for pro-use. You make a clear case, except paying 20% of the cost of the device for a stand that sits on the desk seems ridiculous to me.
    - philjohn 4y ago
      As has been stated ad nauseam (and you seem to be ignoring) it's a red herring. You instead spend $200 for the VESA adapter and put it on a monitor arm. Which is reusable for your next monitor (and the monitor after that, and the monitor after that etc. etc.) Heck, I can't remember the last monitor I had that I kept the stand - it goes back in the box, and into storage until the warranty expires and then it goes in the trash. The Monitor goes on a VESA mount arm.
      - gjvc 4y ago
        The bully always accuses the the victim of what they themselves are guilty of. This chatter about VESA mount arms and if you buy them or not is irrelevant. The price of the monitor stand as stated by Apple what is being discussed.
    - mlyle 4y ago
      20% of the cost of the device for a stand is probably typical in actuality-- just it's usually bundled. If it seems ridiculous, don't buy it-- most of us would be using a monitor arm for a monitor like this. It has a nice 4 bar linkage, bearings, etc. It's intrinsically not cheap and is made in extraordinarily low quantities.
  - elzbardico 4y ago
    In other words. If you buy it to put it on a desk, you are probably the equivalent of a suburban dweller buying a Ram 3500 pickup with dual rear wheels. So, it is better this stand looks good and expensive because that's the whole point of your purchase.
    - mlyle 4y ago
      That's one reframing. Mine is simpler: * Apple realistically needs to provide a stand, even though most users in their target market won't use it * The target market is already small/niche * The stand has to be relatively nice * All in all, this means low quantity, high quality == very high cost.