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No, it isn't dependent children but dependents...very big distinction in practice. Being financially self-sufficient makes no difference because they are still

No, it isn't dependent children but dependents...very big distinction in practice. Being financially self-sufficient makes no difference because they are still using more resources. We aren't selling citizenship like St Kitts, it isn't a car boot sale. What hostile environment? Every other country in Europe is deporting Albanians, we can't. Denmark is returning Syrians, we can't. If your visa expires, there are ways to claim right to remain if you are already here. Okay, and that is why I gave the gross number...which is the highest number ever. And again, the evidence suggests that the UK is retaining more students than expected now (it was the opposite a few years ago).

pjc50 4y ago
> No, it isn't dependent children but dependents...very big distinction in practice. Show me in the legislation where people who are non-child dependents of a student can get a visa. > We aren't selling citizenship like St Kitts, it isn't a car boot sale That's the "Tier 1 (entrepreneur) visa". > Every other country in Europe is deporting Albanians, we can't. [citation needed]
- skippyboxedhero 4y ago
  They can't get a visa. They come as dependents of someone who has a visa. You just need to read the news, the govt is producing legislation to stop this. https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/albanians-macedonians-most-deported-from-germany-in-2022/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/albania... I think you just need to read the news more my friend.
  - pjc50 4y ago
    > They can't get a visa. They come as dependents of someone who has a visa That is not how entry works: at the point of entry, passport control require each individual to have a valid visa. https://www.ivisa.com/united-kingdom-blog/united-kingdom-standard-visitor-visa-for-citizens-of-albania https://www.ivisa.com/united-kingdom-blog/united-kingdom-sta... > read the news more The news lies about how easy immigration is! That's a big part of the problem. You need to speak to some actual immigrants.

pjc50 4y ago

> No, it isn't dependent children but dependents...very big distinction in practice. Show me in the legislation where people who are non-child dependents of a student can get a visa. > We aren't selling citizenship like St Kitts, it isn't a car boot sale That's the "Tier 1 (entrepreneur) visa". > Every other country in Europe is deporting Albanians, we can't. [citation needed]

skippyboxedhero 4y ago
They can't get a visa. They come as dependents of someone who has a visa. You just need to read the news, the govt is producing legislation to stop this. https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/albanians-macedonians-most-deported-from-germany-in-2022/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/albania... I think you just need to read the news more my friend.
- pjc50 4y ago
  > They can't get a visa. They come as dependents of someone who has a visa That is not how entry works: at the point of entry, passport control require each individual to have a valid visa. https://www.ivisa.com/united-kingdom-blog/united-kingdom-standard-visitor-visa-for-citizens-of-albania https://www.ivisa.com/united-kingdom-blog/united-kingdom-sta... > read the news more The news lies about how easy immigration is! That's a big part of the problem. You need to speak to some actual immigrants.