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In Germany we had a lot of migrant workers from Turkey after the war. The lack of diversity in immigrant populations is still causing problems today. Because th

by carlmr 4y ago

In Germany we had a lot of migrant workers from Turkey after the war. The lack of diversity in immigrant populations is still causing problems today. Because there were so many immigrants from the same place, a lot didn't learn German properly because they have enough of their own people to talk to. A parallel society formed. In the big cities you have 3rd and 4th generation children that still don't speak German properly, but probably also don't speak Turkish properly. Of course these youths don't feel at home here, don't get good jobs, and are overrepresented in crime statistics. This causes problems even for skilled immigrants from Turkey today, since the stereotypes that manifested from this are applied to them as well. On the other hand I do understand the individual issue here though. It is a bit unfair to never have a proper foothold in the country that asked you to be there. I think it would be better to limit the H1Bs more by the same country of origin metric, so that people aren't given hope only to crush it later on. And there should be a way to get a green card for those that are already here for 5+ years. It's inhumane to never allow them in properly after they spent so much time building a life in the US.

cuteboy19 4y ago
The quota system was set up because of racial and eugenic concerns rather than some progressive notion of diversity. Though it should be noted that eugenics was considered progressive policy at that time. So it would be a very peculiar accident that it happens to resemble sane and forward thinking policy As to why countries instead of races, >The question will probably at once arise, why, if this legislation was a response to a demand for racial discrimination, was it expressed in terms of nationality? The answer is simple. As has already been shown, our actual knowledge of the racial composition of the American people, to say nothing of the various foreign groups, is so utterly inadequate that the attempt to use it as a basis of legislation would have led to endless confusion and intolerable litigation. So Congress substituted the term nationality, and defined nationality as country of birth. It is clear, then, that “nationality,” as used in this connection, does not conform exactly to the correct definition of either nationality or race. But in effect it affords a rough approximation to the racial character of the different immigrant stream https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/brief-history-us-immigration-policy-colonial-period-present-day#dillingham-commission-world-war-i-national-origins-act-1910-1930 https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/brief-history-us-immigr...

by carlmr 4y ago

cuteboy19 4y ago

The quota system was set up because of racial and eugenic concerns rather than some progressive notion of diversity. Though it should be noted that eugenics was considered progressive policy at that time. So it would be a very peculiar accident that it happens to resemble sane and forward thinking policy As to why countries instead of races, >The question will probably at once arise, why, if this legislation was a response to a demand for racial discrimination, was it expressed in terms of nationality? The answer is simple. As has already been shown, our actual knowledge of the racial composition of the American people, to say nothing of the various foreign groups, is so utterly inadequate that the attempt to use it as a basis of legislation would have led to endless confusion and intolerable litigation. So Congress substituted the term nationality, and defined nationality as country of birth. It is clear, then, that “nationality,” as used in this connection, does not conform exactly to the correct definition of either nationality or race. But in effect it affords a rough approximation to the racial character of the different immigrant stream https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/brief-history-us-immigration-policy-colonial-period-present-day#dillingham-commission-world-war-i-national-origins-act-1910-1930 https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/brief-history-us-immigr...