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The Mac Pro is already in the extreme niche. The current Intel-based Mac Pro starts at $6000. That almost-doubling from the already insanely expensive machine

by mort96 4y ago

The Mac Pro is already in the extreme niche. The current Intel-based Mac Pro starts at $6000. That almost-doubling from the already insanely expensive machine could push it past a breaking point for a lot of current customers though, I don't know.

rbanffy 4y ago
> The Mac Pro is already in the extreme niche. The current Intel-based Mac Pro starts at $6000. Oddly enough, the one I played with felt slower than the Mac Studio.
- dijit 4y ago
  > the one I played with felt slower than the Mac Studio The Mac Studio is faster than the 2019 Mac Pro. https://www.macrumors.com/guide/mac-studio-vs-mac-pro-buyers-guide/ https://www.macrumors.com/guide/mac-studio-vs-mac-pro-buyers... When the Mac Pro came out it was the fastest Mac that existed, but those Intel Chips were already dated and were being roundly beaten by AMD chips of the era. The "killer feature" was the encoding acceleration card, but a faster variant is available inside Apple Silicon. I'm not sure where the cut-off is, but I think the M1 Max (Not ultra) is also faster than the Mac Pro 2019.
  - rbanffy 4y ago
    > The "killer feature" was the encoding acceleration card, but a faster variant is available inside Apple Silicon. It still can have 1.5 TB of RAM.
    - dijit 4y ago
      I can't think of a workflow that would be better served on a local mac with 1.5TiB of ram, than a linux server somewhere else with that RAM. all the workflows I can conceive of right now would struggle to use more than 128G of RAM, but I am open to ideas.
      - rbanffy 4y ago
        > I can't think of a workflow that would be better served on a local mac with 1.5TiB of ram I can think of a few, but they all involve terabytes of data sitting on local storage. At the terabyte sizes, it starts to take more time to transfer the data to the cloud instance than to process it with a beefy workstation.
dumpsterlid 4y ago
What that costs more than my car...?????
- verzeichnis 4y ago
  Where’s the blues mobile? I traded it in for a microphone. Oh, okay.
- deleted 4y ago
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layer8 4y ago
If you take into account that $6000 when the Mac Pro came out adjusted for inflation is now roughly $7000, then the price increase is “only” around 40%, or even less when the new Mac Pro is eventually released.
- lapcat 4y ago
  > If you take into account that $6000 when the Mac Pro came out adjusted for inflation is now roughly $7000 That's not how it works with computer prices. For example, in 2012 the 13-inch MacBook Pro started at $1699. In 2022 it starts at $1299.
  - brandall10 4y ago
    That's a poor example. The 14" is the true successor and that starts at $1999. EDIT: since I can't respond - I meant the latest and greatest in that size class. Back then we had that 13" and the 15" rMBP. Now we have the 14" and 16" M1. The 13" MBP is a low cost entry w/ a legacy chassis. I don't disagree computer costs can fluctuate, but generally where there are leaps forward in design and capability they do go up in price, perhaps not keeping inline w/ inflation though.
    - lapcat 4y ago
      What does "true successor" mean? How about an iMac, which started at $1299 in 2012 and starts at $1299 in 2022?

by mort96 4y ago

rbanffy 4y ago

> The Mac Pro is already in the extreme niche. The current Intel-based Mac Pro starts at $6000. Oddly enough, the one I played with felt slower than the Mac Studio.

dijit 4y ago
> the one I played with felt slower than the Mac Studio The Mac Studio is faster than the 2019 Mac Pro. https://www.macrumors.com/guide/mac-studio-vs-mac-pro-buyers-guide/ https://www.macrumors.com/guide/mac-studio-vs-mac-pro-buyers... When the Mac Pro came out it was the fastest Mac that existed, but those Intel Chips were already dated and were being roundly beaten by AMD chips of the era. The "killer feature" was the encoding acceleration card, but a faster variant is available inside Apple Silicon. I'm not sure where the cut-off is, but I think the M1 Max (Not ultra) is also faster than the Mac Pro 2019.
- rbanffy 4y ago
  > The "killer feature" was the encoding acceleration card, but a faster variant is available inside Apple Silicon. It still can have 1.5 TB of RAM.
  - dijit 4y ago
    I can't think of a workflow that would be better served on a local mac with 1.5TiB of ram, than a linux server somewhere else with that RAM. all the workflows I can conceive of right now would struggle to use more than 128G of RAM, but I am open to ideas.
    - rbanffy 4y ago
      > I can't think of a workflow that would be better served on a local mac with 1.5TiB of ram I can think of a few, but they all involve terabytes of data sitting on local storage. At the terabyte sizes, it starts to take more time to transfer the data to the cloud instance than to process it with a beefy workstation.

dumpsterlid 4y ago

What that costs more than my car...?????

verzeichnis 4y ago
Where’s the blues mobile? I traded it in for a microphone. Oh, okay.
deleted 4y ago
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layer8 4y ago

If you take into account that $6000 when the Mac Pro came out adjusted for inflation is now roughly $7000, then the price increase is “only” around 40%, or even less when the new Mac Pro is eventually released.

lapcat 4y ago
> If you take into account that $6000 when the Mac Pro came out adjusted for inflation is now roughly $7000 That's not how it works with computer prices. For example, in 2012 the 13-inch MacBook Pro started at $1699. In 2022 it starts at $1299.
- brandall10 4y ago
  That's a poor example. The 14" is the true successor and that starts at $1999. EDIT: since I can't respond - I meant the latest and greatest in that size class. Back then we had that 13" and the 15" rMBP. Now we have the 14" and 16" M1. The 13" MBP is a low cost entry w/ a legacy chassis. I don't disagree computer costs can fluctuate, but generally where there are leaps forward in design and capability they do go up in price, perhaps not keeping inline w/ inflation though.
  - lapcat 4y ago
    What does "true successor" mean? How about an iMac, which started at $1299 in 2012 and starts at $1299 in 2022?