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The article doesn't mention, but I can tell companies definitely use the visa as a way to keep your salary low and work you to the bone. It is extremely hard to

The article doesn't mention, but I can tell companies definitely use the visa as a way to keep your salary low and work you to the bone. It is extremely hard to change jobs if you are on a visa and the employers know it I am a tech immigrant to Sweden and even though the work-visa here is not as bad as the US (if we lose our jobs we got 3 months before we have to leave the country!) it is still quite atrocious

spritefs 4y ago
> companies definitely use the visa as a way to keep your salary low and work you to the bone. Isn't this illegal? Aren't H1B required to be paid at least the same as domestic counterparts?
- thenipper 4y ago
  What I’ve seen is they get hired at a junior level. Then the promotion opportunities are few and far between.
- wildzzz 4y ago
  The DOL has salary brackets based on job title, experience, and location but I'm sure there's a way for employers to stick H1B workers into experience brackets below where they should be, locate their H1B workers in offices in cheaper locations, or just simply pay them less than their domestic coworkers while still meeting the salary requirements.
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  - spritefs 4y ago
    I don't know if discriminating against visa holders is illegal, but most visa holders are minorities so this would be a violation of the civil rights act
throw123123123 4y ago
What do you think importing goods does to salaries?
- amf12 4y ago
  Contrary to the popular myth, immigration hasn't led to salaries in the tech sector (which has the most immigrants) to go down. In fact, in the last decade they have increased due to an increased competition and high demand. Immigrants also lead to increased demand and job growth: "Contrary to popular belief, immigrants do not take away jobs from American workers. Instead, they create new jobs by forming new businesses, spending their incomes on American goods and services, paying taxes and raising the productivity of U.S. businesses. Immigrants are good for the economy, not the other way around." [1] "However, although immigrants increase the supply of labor, they also spend their wages on homes, food, TVs and other goods and services and expand domestic economic demand. This increased demand, in turn, generates more jobs to build those homes, make and sell food, and transport TVs." [2] "Most empirical studies indicate long-term benefits for natives’ employment and wages from immigration, although some studies suggest that these gains come at the cost of short-term losses from lower wages and higher unemployment. Standard economic theory implies that while higher labor supply from immigration may initially depress wages, over time firms increase investment to restore the amount of capital per worker, which then restores wages." [2] [1] https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy [2] https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/27/the-effects-of-immigration-on-the-united-states-economy https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/27/the-e...

spritefs 4y ago

> companies definitely use the visa as a way to keep your salary low and work you to the bone. Isn't this illegal? Aren't H1B required to be paid at least the same as domestic counterparts?

thenipper 4y ago
What I’ve seen is they get hired at a junior level. Then the promotion opportunities are few and far between.
wildzzz 4y ago
The DOL has salary brackets based on job title, experience, and location but I'm sure there's a way for employers to stick H1B workers into experience brackets below where they should be, locate their H1B workers in offices in cheaper locations, or just simply pay them less than their domestic coworkers while still meeting the salary requirements.
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- spritefs 4y ago
  I don't know if discriminating against visa holders is illegal, but most visa holders are minorities so this would be a violation of the civil rights act

throw123123123 4y ago

What do you think importing goods does to salaries?

amf12 4y ago
Contrary to the popular myth, immigration hasn't led to salaries in the tech sector (which has the most immigrants) to go down. In fact, in the last decade they have increased due to an increased competition and high demand. Immigrants also lead to increased demand and job growth: "Contrary to popular belief, immigrants do not take away jobs from American workers. Instead, they create new jobs by forming new businesses, spending their incomes on American goods and services, paying taxes and raising the productivity of U.S. businesses. Immigrants are good for the economy, not the other way around." [1] "However, although immigrants increase the supply of labor, they also spend their wages on homes, food, TVs and other goods and services and expand domestic economic demand. This increased demand, in turn, generates more jobs to build those homes, make and sell food, and transport TVs." [2] "Most empirical studies indicate long-term benefits for natives’ employment and wages from immigration, although some studies suggest that these gains come at the cost of short-term losses from lower wages and higher unemployment. Standard economic theory implies that while higher labor supply from immigration may initially depress wages, over time firms increase investment to restore the amount of capital per worker, which then restores wages." [2] [1] https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy [2] https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/27/the-effects-of-immigration-on-the-united-states-economy https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2016/1/27/the-e...