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And then we graciously disregarded the trouble of 'obsolete' hardware that is not supported anymore by the 'brand new improved and with most super revolutionary

And then we graciously disregarded the trouble of 'obsolete' hardware that is not supported anymore by the 'brand new improved and with most super revolutionary functionality in the universe' version of the software. I am fed up with phone apps already because of that, nearly no month or several week goes by without one warning me: UPDATE! NOW! And then when you update its behaviour is altered, many times functionalities you liked are gone. The whole thing is more like a nuisance than genuine help. Exposing myself potentially to the same kind of problems concerning my whole home?! No thank you! (recently, after long deliberation and consultation with my keen wife, I gave up the idea of robotic vacums. some are excluded due to shameless price or physical configuration, but many due to the inability to operate without a phone app. i will do my vacuuming without connecting to home wifi, thanks)

WalterBright 4y ago
The twitter app on my iphone tried to upgrade itself, and failed because the upgrade won't work on an older iphone. Trying to download the previous version does not work. Do I want to spend a grand upgrading the phone just to use twitter? Nah.
Brybry 4y ago
I have similar fundamental issues with a robotic vacuum but a robotic vacuum has been a game changer for my dysfunctional household where no one actually vacuumed regularly. It doesn't matter if it's the best vacuum or the most secure vacuum or even the cheapest, for us it matters if it actually gets used and thus the floors are cleaner. Same reason I've come to like our stick vacuum: we're far more likely to use it than other vacuums that are technically better but are heavier/louder/more difficult to store/etc.
- mihaaly 4y ago
  Yeah, that option is on my mind too!
ghgr 4y ago
Regarding the robot vacuum you can have the best of both worlds if you get a compatible device and flash an open-source firmware, like Valetudo [1]. You can operate the device by pressing a button, and you can configure it from a locally-hosted webapp (it doesn't need internet access). [1] https://github.com/rand256/valetudo https://github.com/rand256/valetudo
- mihaaly 4y ago
  Thanks for the tip!

WalterBright 4y ago

The twitter app on my iphone tried to upgrade itself, and failed because the upgrade won't work on an older iphone. Trying to download the previous version does not work. Do I want to spend a grand upgrading the phone just to use twitter? Nah.

Brybry 4y ago

I have similar fundamental issues with a robotic vacuum but a robotic vacuum has been a game changer for my dysfunctional household where no one actually vacuumed regularly. It doesn't matter if it's the best vacuum or the most secure vacuum or even the cheapest, for us it matters if it actually gets used and thus the floors are cleaner. Same reason I've come to like our stick vacuum: we're far more likely to use it than other vacuums that are technically better but are heavier/louder/more difficult to store/etc.

mihaaly 4y ago
Yeah, that option is on my mind too!

ghgr 4y ago

Regarding the robot vacuum you can have the best of both worlds if you get a compatible device and flash an open-source firmware, like Valetudo [1]. You can operate the device by pressing a button, and you can configure it from a locally-hosted webapp (it doesn't need internet access). [1] https://github.com/rand256/valetudo https://github.com/rand256/valetudo

mihaaly 4y ago
Thanks for the tip!