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If you aren’t happy with Flake8, Pylint, and isort (or maybe if you are!), I recommend checking out Ruff: https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff https://github.

If you aren’t happy with Flake8, Pylint, and isort (or maybe if you are!), I recommend checking out Ruff: https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff It’s literally 100 times faster, with comparable coverage to Flake8 plus dozens of plugins, automatic fixes, and very active development.

gjulianm 4y ago
Does ruff replace isort? Because I'm really unhappy with it, it doesn't work with tabs and conflicts with yapf all the time.
- anderskaseorg 4y ago
  Yes, as of last month. I’m not sure if it works with YAPF; it’s designed to work with Black and doesn’t currently have many of isort’s configuration options. Worth a try!
  - gjulianm 4y ago
    Thanks! The configuration options don't matter too much, I was really unhappy with the options isort gives.
- drcongo 4y ago
  > it doesn't work with tabs What do you mean by this? Are you indenting Python with tabs?
  - makapuf 4y ago
    If your import statements are indented, they must be in control statements (try/except or conditional imports, I fail to see why you would put those in a loop) thus they will be difficult to reorder if you import another module (with different name or stdlib status) on import error.
    - drcongo 4y ago
      I'm not sure what you mean here, but package names can be indented without conditionals or tries, as in... from application.module.modules import ( Model1, Model2, Model3, Model4, Model5, Model6 ) iSort handles this fine if you're using spaces for indentation.
      - eCa 4y ago
        > I have no idea how to <pre> on HN Two or more leading spaces on each line.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc
        drcongo 4y ago
        Thank you, fixed it up.
  - gjulianm 4y ago
    Yes. The code started as being indented by tabs, so changing it now is a mess. Also, not to start a flamewar, but I've always preferred tabs to spaces in any language, I find them more reliable, easier to use...
    - drcongo 4y ago
      Not going to argue about your personal preference, but in Python spaces for indentation isn't just a personal preference - you'll run into a fair amount of issues with that, this one being just the tip of the iceberg.
      - gjulianm 4y ago
        Apart from isort not knowing how to deal with tabs, and changing the defaults "spaces" to "tabs" in the tools (along with line length too, because for some reason the 80 character limit is set in stone even though it's absolutely outdated) I haven't had many issues. And this has been running for years already.
      - dontlaugh 4y ago
        Not necessarily. Consistently indenting with tabs and aligning with spaces does work, but is tricky to enforce.
        Stratoscope 4y ago
        The key to success with tabs in any language is simple: Don't use alignment. Instead, only use indentation. It is interesting to note that Black-formatted code uses indentation only and never uses alignment. It would be perfectly compatible with tabs, unlike Google-formatted code which relies heavily on column alignment.
- captnswing 4y ago
  yes it does. see see https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff#supported-rules https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff#supported-rules for the rules it supports. "IOO1" being the code for isort relevant section from my pyproject.toml [tool.ruff] line-length = 88 # pyflakes, pycodestyle, isort select = ["F", "E", "W", "I001"]
  - stinos 4y ago
    But does it just lint, or also effectively sort the imports?
    - stinos 4y ago
      Ok apparently it does: https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff#how-does-ruffs-import-sorting-compare-to-isort https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff#how-does-ruffs-import-...
drcongo 4y ago
Just installed this along with ruff-lsp and I'm in love already, thank you!
captnswing 4y ago
+100 on ruff. replaced both flake8 and isort across all my projects
trymas 4y ago
TIL and seems very nice project. Though their `v0.0.X` versioning is very funny to me (https://0ver.org/ https://0ver.org/).
timothycrosley 4y ago
FWIW, I wrote isort, but am seriously considering migrating my projects to use Ruff. Long term I think the design is just better over the variety of tools we use within the Python ecosystem today. The fact we have a plethora of projects that are meant to run per a commit with each one reparsing the AST independently, and often using a different approach to do so, just feels untenable long term to me.
- BeefySwain 4y ago
  That is about as large of an endorsement as I can conceive. Will definitely have to check it out!
- muxator 4y ago
  BTW, thank you for isort!

gjulianm 4y ago

Does ruff replace isort? Because I'm really unhappy with it, it doesn't work with tabs and conflicts with yapf all the time.

anderskaseorg 4y ago
Yes, as of last month. I’m not sure if it works with YAPF; it’s designed to work with Black and doesn’t currently have many of isort’s configuration options. Worth a try!
- gjulianm 4y ago
  Thanks! The configuration options don't matter too much, I was really unhappy with the options isort gives.
drcongo 4y ago
> it doesn't work with tabs What do you mean by this? Are you indenting Python with tabs?
- makapuf 4y ago
  If your import statements are indented, they must be in control statements (try/except or conditional imports, I fail to see why you would put those in a loop) thus they will be difficult to reorder if you import another module (with different name or stdlib status) on import error.
  - drcongo 4y ago
    I'm not sure what you mean here, but package names can be indented without conditionals or tries, as in... from application.module.modules import ( Model1, Model2, Model3, Model4, Model5, Model6 ) iSort handles this fine if you're using spaces for indentation.
    - eCa 4y ago
      > I have no idea how to <pre> on HN Two or more leading spaces on each line.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc
      - drcongo 4y ago
        Thank you, fixed it up.
- gjulianm 4y ago
  Yes. The code started as being indented by tabs, so changing it now is a mess. Also, not to start a flamewar, but I've always preferred tabs to spaces in any language, I find them more reliable, easier to use...
  - drcongo 4y ago
    Not going to argue about your personal preference, but in Python spaces for indentation isn't just a personal preference - you'll run into a fair amount of issues with that, this one being just the tip of the iceberg.
    - gjulianm 4y ago
      Apart from isort not knowing how to deal with tabs, and changing the defaults "spaces" to "tabs" in the tools (along with line length too, because for some reason the 80 character limit is set in stone even though it's absolutely outdated) I haven't had many issues. And this has been running for years already.
    - dontlaugh 4y ago
      Not necessarily. Consistently indenting with tabs and aligning with spaces does work, but is tricky to enforce.
      - Stratoscope 4y ago
        The key to success with tabs in any language is simple: Don't use alignment. Instead, only use indentation. It is interesting to note that Black-formatted code uses indentation only and never uses alignment. It would be perfectly compatible with tabs, unlike Google-formatted code which relies heavily on column alignment.
captnswing 4y ago
yes it does. see see https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff#supported-rules https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff#supported-rules for the rules it supports. "IOO1" being the code for isort relevant section from my pyproject.toml [tool.ruff] line-length = 88 # pyflakes, pycodestyle, isort select = ["F", "E", "W", "I001"]
- stinos 4y ago
  But does it just lint, or also effectively sort the imports?
  - stinos 4y ago
    Ok apparently it does: https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff#how-does-ruffs-import-sorting-compare-to-isort https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff#how-does-ruffs-import-...

drcongo 4y ago

Just installed this along with ruff-lsp and I'm in love already, thank you!

captnswing 4y ago

+100 on ruff. replaced both flake8 and isort across all my projects

trymas 4y ago

TIL and seems very nice project. Though their `v0.0.X` versioning is very funny to me (https://0ver.org/ https://0ver.org/).

timothycrosley 4y ago

FWIW, I wrote isort, but am seriously considering migrating my projects to use Ruff. Long term I think the design is just better over the variety of tools we use within the Python ecosystem today. The fact we have a plethora of projects that are meant to run per a commit with each one reparsing the AST independently, and often using a different approach to do so, just feels untenable long term to me.

BeefySwain 4y ago
That is about as large of an endorsement as I can conceive. Will definitely have to check it out!
muxator 4y ago
BTW, thank you for isort!