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I'm actually glad someone puts it into one list. I grew up in a society that used words like "disabled" left and right, as an insult. As a child I never saw ra
by divan 4y ago
I'm actually glad someone puts it into one list.
I grew up in a society that used words like "disabled" left and right, as an insult. As a child I never saw ramps for the wheelchairs, and seldom saw people on a wheelchair (only in hospitals). That was part of the culture of ostracising "different people" and making sure "normal" people don't see them.
It's still the case for mental issues though, and I have friends with kids at different levels of ASD who are literally prohibited to enter cafes so they "don't scare normal people". Using "autist" as an insult is still widespread in my country.
And I'm glad to see how this is changing. Accessibility becomes a topic of discussion and a new norm. I was glad to learn to use "people with disabilities" instead of "disabled". Somehow I felt like I'm a part of this change, undoing wrongs that were common in our society towards that group of people.
I have the same feeling towards gender pronounces. When I use "person-hours" instead of "man-hours", even if it sounds the same to me, I feel like my communication becomes a little bit better and respectful to everyone. I have no troubles learning doing something in a new way.
I also embraced "master" to "main" default branch naming switch at Github, and I like it. Main is shorter and makes more sense. Branch renaming is not painful, so why not, if it makes someone's experience a bit more pleasant.
In figure skating, for example, almost century old names of "Choctaw" and "Mohawk" steps where renamed recently to S-step and C-step, because the history of those names where rooted in the history of oppression of Indian tribes in North America. I then read a reddit comment from one of the indigenous people from skating community in Canada sharing her experience and feelings about this change - in short, she was extremely happy. There are 1.6 million people like her in Canada alone. And guess what, many coaches reported that kids where super happy too, because making sense and remembering words like "choctaw" and "mohawk" was difficult for them. "S-step" and "C-step", instead, make a lot of sense, because those steps looks exactly like S and C on the ice (hence the naming). Those names were never good.
So to me changing language is a reflection of changes in society. I understand that sometimes it can go too far, but I disagree with majority of comments here that this list is something "absolutely disgusting". I think it's fine, and serves a good purpose as a recommendation.
- friend_and_foe 4y agoThese changes don't reflect changes in society. The vast majority of us do not have any involvement in instituting these changes. These are thought up by the deranged and unintelligent and socially enforced by instilling fear of ostracism. The rest of us are simply expected to go along with it and I, for one, refuse to participate. You ninnies can have fun.
- hbrn 4y ago> As a child I never saw ramps for the wheelchairs, and seldom saw people on a wheelchair (only in hospitals). That was part of the culture of ostracising "different people" and making sure "normal" people don't see them. US had ramps long before wokeness infected the minds. You might be saying that wokeness leaking to other countries helps them become more accessible, but this could be a spurious correlation. > Branch renaming is not painful, so why not, if it makes someone's experience a bit more pleasant. How do you know it's not painful and that pros outweigh the cons? All the polls I've seen were overwhelmingly against rename. The only way to be offended by "master" branch is to choose to be offended. Nobody means anything offensive, but I can twist their words to pretend I'm hurt and make them feel bad for my own benefit. That's a disgusting manipulative behavior, and I have absolutely no respect for people who do that. Accommodating those narcissists is harmful for society.
- vestrigi 4y agoThank you for posting a different view on this topic. The comment section here feels very one-sided and makes me believe that people aren’t here to critically discuss all views. Honestly I feel very intimidated to write any comments that challenge the opinions here because of the imbalance.
- laserdancepony 4y agoI feel violated by your embracement of thought policing. This is not a "change in culture" or describing people voluntarily changing their views. This is fascism in new clothes - "Kauft nicht bei Juden!". The reason for authoring documents like the discussed is not to better yourself, it's to ostracise those who do not abide. Get them fired from their jobs, burn down their homes and cars, slander them so they may never ever dare to call someone obviously male "Mister". This is getting completely out of hand, and it will end bloody I presume. I rename every git main back to master in my projects, I use blacklists, I will not give one foot to the batshit insane.
- divan 4y ago> burn down their homes and cars, slander them Do you suggest that people read recommendations from Stanford and start burning your home, because you disagree with those? Stanford really has that level of control over people minds? Impressive if yes. > This is getting completely out of hand Whose hand?