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there is no value right now in open secure element. secure element is arguably the most secure hardware platform in the world to deploy at scale. - secure elem

there is no value right now in open secure element. secure element is arguably the most secure hardware platform in the world to deploy at scale. - secure element is in every credit card - secure element is in every cell phone - secure element is in every modern passport these aren’t simple use cases. these have national security implications. i foresee this going the opposite direction as more critical things rely on secure element more individual proprietary implementations will emerge. it’s still a standard. you can still develop on top of secure element. but who really benefits from it being open?

adg001 4y ago
The civil society would benefit, because it is hard to entrust our business and affairs to systems whose degree of trustworthiness is moot at best.
sounds 4y ago
Reduction in e-waste and reduction in forced obsolescence: the more open this secure element is, the more it sets a standard. Then that creates a robust ecosystem around it. (For example, see the Raspberry Pi which helped spur an ecosystem. Also, even the original Pi 1 can still be useful today.) Those secure elements in credit cards (Java Card platform) and cell phones (SIM) have an open standard. This is natural growth in that standard.
JoachimS 4y ago
One obvious is trust. Secure Elements are validated against Common Criteras, often at very high level (6+). Yet, there have been problems. An example is bad RSA implementations. Developing for SEs normally require signing boatloads of NDAs. This makes it hard do talk about weaknesses, things that simply could easily be improved (in support libraries for example). By having open designs, open source more people can review and decide for themselves if they are ready to trust the SE. And hopefully more bugs can be found, issues can be fixed and things can be improved faster. This will benefit the users and the societies as a whole.

adg001 4y ago

The civil society would benefit, because it is hard to entrust our business and affairs to systems whose degree of trustworthiness is moot at best.

sounds 4y ago

Reduction in e-waste and reduction in forced obsolescence: the more open this secure element is, the more it sets a standard. Then that creates a robust ecosystem around it. (For example, see the Raspberry Pi which helped spur an ecosystem. Also, even the original Pi 1 can still be useful today.) Those secure elements in credit cards (Java Card platform) and cell phones (SIM) have an open standard. This is natural growth in that standard.

JoachimS 4y ago

One obvious is trust. Secure Elements are validated against Common Criteras, often at very high level (6+). Yet, there have been problems. An example is bad RSA implementations. Developing for SEs normally require signing boatloads of NDAs. This makes it hard do talk about weaknesses, things that simply could easily be improved (in support libraries for example). By having open designs, open source more people can review and decide for themselves if they are ready to trust the SE. And hopefully more bugs can be found, issues can be fixed and things can be improved faster. This will benefit the users and the societies as a whole.